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Monday, August 18, 2014

Ukraine - Links with regards to Malaysian passenger plane MH17

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Filtering out links with regards to Ukraine and downed passenger plane MH17 from July 2014 to August 16 2014
Only the most important links and with regards to the downed Malaysian passenger plane MH17
From:August part II (August 15 )
http://www.verkkomedia.org/news.asp?mode=3&id=11432
Ukrainan ilmavoimat todennäköinen syyllinen lennon MH17 alasampumisessa Itä-Ukrainassa
Todisteet kasvavat, että Ukrainan ilmavoimia on pidettävä todennäköisenä syyllisenä malesialaisen matkustajakoneen...
http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
By Haris Hussain - 7 August 2014 @ 8:20 AM
KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile,
 and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.


http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/09/mala-a09.html

Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_67273.shtml
Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17
“Intelligence analysts in the United States have already concluded that Malaysia flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it. This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a jet that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.”
http://4bitnews.com/world-at-war/malaysia-accuses-us-eu-backed-ukraine-regime-mh17-shoot/
Malaysia accuses US and EU backed Ukraine regime of MH17 shoot-down - 4bitNEWS

Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the full backing of the Malaysian state.
http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/
Ron Paul: US 'likely hiding truth' on downed Malaysian Flight MH17
"It’s hard to believe that the US, with all of its spy satellites available for monitoring everything in Ukraine, that precise proof of who did what and when is not available," the two-time presidential candidate said.

"Too bad we can’t count on our government to just tell us the truth and show us the evidence," Paul added. "I’m convinced that it knows a lot more than it’s telling us."


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August Part I:


http://rt.com/news/178712-ceasefire-ukraine-plane-mh17/
Kiev ends ceasefire at MH17 crash sitehttp://www.globalresearch.ca/support-mh17-truth-osce-monitors-identify-shrapnel-like-holes-indicating-shelling-no-firm-evidence-of-a-missile-attack/5394324
"Support MH17 Truth": OSCE Monitors Identify "Shrapnel and Machine Gun-Like Holes" indicating...
The OSCE confirms the existence of "machine gun like holes", without acknowledging that these cannot be caused by a missile. Were these small holes caused by a GSh-302 firing gun (rpm 3000) operat...
http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/2014/08/mh17-ard-presseclub-gratscht-rein.html
Hinter der Fichte: MH17: ARD-Presseclub grätscht rein.
NATO-Mann der Süddeutschen. „Es gibt eine Fülle von Indizien. Die westlichen Regierungen sind mittlerweile wirklich überzeugt davon, dass es ungebrochen einen Fluss von schwerem Kriegsgerät aus Russland in die Ukraine gibt.“ Jedes Kleinkind würde hier fragen: Woher willst´n das wissen? Nicht so die ARD.
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/28/berlin-zweifelt-erstmals-an-kiew-ukrainische-armee-nimmt-absturzstelle-von-mh17-unter-beschuss/
Berlin zweifelt erstmals an Kiew: Ukrainische Armee beschießt Absturzstelle
Erstmals äußert die Bundesregierung leise Kritik an der von ihr bisher bedingungslos unterstützten Regierung in Kiew:
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That's interesting: WIKIPEDIA CHANGED MAX ALTITUDE OF SU-25 TO 7'000 METERS ON JULY 16. - JUST ONE DAY BEFORE ‪#‎MH17‬ WAS SHOT DOWN
"Und nochmal:

(Ganz nebenbei: so viel zu Thema WIKIPEDIA ALS VERLÄSSLICHE QUELLE, *hust* )

Was uns die Mainstream verschweigen sieht man im CBS Canada TV ll!
M. Bociurkiw, einer der ersten OSZE-Ermittler am Wrack, bestätigt Einschüsse an der Aussenwand von FlugMH17: Er spricht von Maschinengewehrkugeln. Dafür spricht auch die Aufnahme.

dazu auch folgende Aussage eines erfahrenen Piloten:

immer wieder wird argumentiert, die SU 25 habe eine Dienstgipfelhöhe von 7.000 Metern und kann so die MH 017 nicht abgeschossen haben. Wer sich auf Wikipedia kundig machen will, wird das bestätigt bekommen. Wer sich aber die Mühe macht sein Wissen auf Fachseiten zu erweitern, der erhält eine ganz andere, die richtige Dienstgipfelhöhe: 14.600 Meter. Zum Beispiel hier: http://www.fliegerweb.com/militaer/flugzeuge/lexikon.php?show=lexikon-50

Dazu ist sagen: Bis 15.07.2014 wurde in Wikipedia, sowohl in deutsch als auch in englisch, die Dienstgipfelhöhe der SU 25 mit „ca. 10.000 Meter“ angegeben. Am 16.07.2014 standen an denselben Stellen nur noch 7.000 Meter. Die MH 017 ist am 17.07.2014 abgeschossen worden. Vergleichen Sie den Zeitablauf. Im Wikipedia-Diskussionsforum ist ein riesiger „shitstorm“ über die falsche Dienstgipfelhöhe entbrannt. Wikipedia zeigt sich unbeeindruckt. (Wer sich gut im Netz auskennt, kann die obigen Angaben auf webarchive.org überprüfen.)

Das Handbuch “Flugzuge der Welt” von W.Green aus 1984 S.208f., einem Standardwerk, das i.w. die Daten der militärischen “Janes”-Handbücher wiedergibt und auch “NATO”-Referenz gewesen ist, bestimmt für die 1984 erstmals aufgeführte SU-25 eine Dienstgipfelhöhe schon in der ersten Exportversion der SU-25 (SU-25 MK, auf die sich die westliche Referenz bezieht) von 10.670 Metern.

Quelle: http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/


http://youtu.be/qy7L3ApScf8
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http://www.srf.ch/news/international/nur-mithilfe-der-rebellen-kommen-wir-zur-absturzstelle
«Nur mithilfe der Rebellen kommen wir zur Absturzstelle»
Seit Tagen versuchen die OSZE-Beobachter in der Ukrainer zur Absturzstelle von Flug MH17 zu gelangen. Der Vize-Chef der Mission, der Schweizer Alexander Hug, beschreibt, welch ein Spiessrutenlauf das ist.
http://youtu.be/Eiu2s-8MRJA
MH17 Investigators Fell Very Comforatble and Very Safe Working With Speratists on Investiagtion
Australia Airforce Chief Marshall Angus Houston Speaks
Contrary to Western media: "We found the separatists there to be professional, co-operative & essentially helpful to our purposes of removing remains & perhaps later on removing wreckage." - Commander of the Royal Australian air force Air Marshal Angus Houston
http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/List_of_MH17_airframe_parts
List of MH17 airframe partshttp://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/940136.reibungshitze-haette-alles-entflammt.html
MH17 wurde nicht von einer Flugabwehrrakete getroffen
"Aus Sicht eines Experten ist ein Abschuss der Boeing 777 Flug MH 17 durch eine bodenständige Flugabwehrrakete mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit als Absturzursache auszuschließen. Diese Einschätzung ist trotz des unglaublichen Medienrummels möglich, wenn man sich an fachlich fundierte Erkenntnisse und Erfahrungen hält."
http://en.ria.ru/burning_point/20140730/191488438/We-Need-all-Kinds-of-Sanctions-Against-US-for-Its-Global.html
"We need all kinds of sanctions against the US for their multicriminal global policies, a kind of hegemony by the mafia.
This is not the way we can continue. If we do not want the third world war, we should start the stopping procedure right now," Christoph R. Hörstel, German political analyst, told in an exclusive interview with Radio VR, analyzing the Boeing tragedy in the context of US broader global policies.

How does the US response to ‪#‎MH17‬ tragedy measure up against America’s bad habit of using false pretexts to justify attacks against other countries? Do you agree with Mr. Hörstel?
JETZT WIRD ABGERECHNET!
Wenn wir unsere Freunde in Washington nicht rechtzeitig stoppen, droht ihre Kurzsicht-Politik den europäischen Kontinent anzuzünden.
Erster Schritt: schonungslose Benennung der Tatsachen.
Dann: eiligste Vorbereitung & Durchführung politischer Schritte.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNMj-M-GDl0
<Investigating MH17 (Low)>
Susan Ormiston sits down with Michael Bociurkiw, the Canadian who was part of the first international monitors at the MH17 crash site.
Ausserdem besitzt die Su-25 1 × doppelläufige 30-mm-Maschinenkanone KBP Grjasew-Schipunow GSch-30-2 mit 250 Schuss Munition
Achtung, hier ist der vom Mainstream versteckte Beweis: M. Bociurkiw, einer der ersten OSZE-Ermittler am Wrack, bestätigt Einschüsse an der Aussenhaut von ‪#‎MH17‬ inkl. Bildern. (Ab min. 6:00, englisch) Empfehle download bevor es verschwindet. Es handelt sich um Einschüsse von Projektilen. Er spricht von Maschinengewehrkugeln. Dafür spricht auch die Aufnahme. Das kann nur ein Kampfjet. 30mm-Geschosse vom Boden erreichen keine 10 km.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-and-the-economic-backlash-of-us-sanctions-against-russia-the-rush-to-war/5394187
MH17 and the Economic Backlash of US Sanctions against Russia: The Rush to War?
Citing the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 as impetus, US President Barack Obama announced stronger sanctions against Russia leveled by both the US and EU. This comes after previous sancti...
http://rt.com/news/174596-osce-bociurkiw-mh17-crash/
Expert access to MH17 crash site 'fairly good' - OSCE mission
It took four days for international experts to gain access to the crash site. The reason is that even after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced a 40-kilometer ceasefire zone around the crash site, Malaysian experts came under heavy shelling from the Ukrainian army while making their way within the ceasefire zone.

http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/07/22/osce-says-full-access-mh17-crash-site-given-july-20/
OSCE says full access to MH17 crash site given on July 20
KUALA LUMPUR, July 22:

The Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OCSE) said they were given full access to the crash site of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Flight MH17 on July 20 after initially being given only partial access.


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July Part III

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/742998
Russia gives UN, OSCE data from objective monitoring over MH17 crash site - Churkin
Russia “makes any contribution to investigating the tragedy”, Churkin said
http://on.rt.com/hg8mhs
Russia fears Kiev trying to destroy implicating MH17 evidence
Kiev authorities may be seeking to “destroy evidence” which implicates their role in the crash of the Malaysian jet, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin said, expressing concerns over the ongoing military operation in E. Ukraine in breach of UN resolution.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111
The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes...If we now consider the armament of a typical SU 25 we learn this: It is equipped with a double-barreled 30-mm gun, type GSh-302 / AO-17A, equipped with: a 250 round magazine of anti-tank incendiary shells and splinter-explosive shells (dum-dum), arranged in alternating order. The cockpit of the MH 017 has evidently been fired at from both sides: the entry and exit holes are found on the same fragment of it’s cockpit segment!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-nato-fast-track-war-plans-after-failed-mh17-false-flag-washington-attempts-bold-new-moves-to-frame-russia/5393925
US-NATO “Fast-Track War Plans”. After Failed MH17 False Flag, Washington Attempts Bold New Moves to Frame Russia
After their total failure to blame eastern Ukrainian Rebels and Moscow for what appears to be Kiev forces shooting down Fight MH17 on July 17th, Washington and its NATO allies have shifted their propaganda strategy in a new attempt to implicate Russia for international war crimes…

Over the weekend, Washington used its US ambassador to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, to launch another fabricated social media post designed to blame Russia for “firing artillery over its border into the Ukraine”.
Twitter Bombed: Pyatt’s tweeting turned out to be a bad joke. It’s a wonder he still has a job.
http://bit.ly/1ppJ7Lw
MH17/Rußland: ARD bis SPIEGEL im TIME Tunnel
http://truthcdm.com/undeniable-mh17-shot-with-30-cal-gun-by-ukraine-aircraft/
UNDENIABLE MH17 SHOT WITH 30 cal GUN BY UKRAINE AIRCRAFT
Apparently, the OSCE representative meant automatic gun. Ukrainian Su-25, which, according to the Russian Defense Ministry was seen next to the “Boeing”, just equipped with not only missiles, but also built-in double-barreled 30-milimitrovoy gun. Ammunition – 250 rounds.
http://nsnbc.me/2014/07/29/blocking-mh17-probe/
Who is blocking MH17 probe? Why?
Dutch and Australian police teams have this week for the second time had to cancel plans to investigate the crash site of the downed Malaysia airliner in Uk
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/07/ukraine-pentagon-sees-ballistic-missile-launches-why-then-no-mh17-data.html
M of A - Ukraine: Pentagon Sees Ballistic Missile Launches - Why Then No MH17 Data?
Pentagon officials tell CNN (video) that the Ukrainian government fired three ballistic missiles towards the federalists during the last 48 hours. Such missiles have ranges from 50 miles up to some 600 miles and carry warheads with some 1,000 pounds or more of explosives.
http://german.ruvr.ru/news/2014_07_29/Ukrainischer-Pilot-der-Su-25-behauptet-die-Boeing-abgeschossen-zu-haben-5917/
Ukrainischer Pilot der Su-25 behauptet, die Boeing abgeschossen zu haben
Ein ukrainischer Flieger, Pilot eines Schlachtflugzeuges Su-25, hat in einem Interview mit der deutschen Ausgabe Wahrheit für Deutschland die Verantwortung für die Vernichtung des Passagier

http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/
Schockierende Analyse zum Abschuss der Malaysian MH 017

July 26, 2014
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20140729000007&cid=1101&MainCatID=11
Malaysia says Ukraine must bear responsibility for MH17|Politics|News|WantChinaTimes.com
Malaysia has stated for the first time that it believes the Ukrainian government ought to bear responsibility for the fatal crash of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, according to a report from Singaporean newspaper Lianhe Zaobao.
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It is amazing how, when it comes to really caring about finding the truth about MH17, the "international community" and the corporate media don't even bother to ask Poroshenko and the regime in Kiev to give full and immediate access to the Ukrainian air traffic controllers, Buk missiles, radar data, recordings, etc.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67OGUsQC44&feature=youtu.be
Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told
http://www.globalresearch.ca/cui-bono-who-benefits-from-the-mh17-catastrophe/5393658
Cui Bono? – Who Benefits From the #MH17 Catastrophe?
This video documentary by TV ZVEZDA provides analysis and witness reports from the the very location in the Donesk oblast, where the plane was downed Video: TV ZVEZDA Documentary – Who Benefits fro...
http://www.infowars.com/multiple-reports-ukrainian-fighter-jets-were-with-malaysian-flight-17-when-it-was-shot-down/

Multiple Reports: Ukrainian Fighter Jets Were with Malaysian Flight 17 When It Was Shot Down
Is THIS Why the Plane Was Shot Down?
http://amr.amronline.de/2014/07/25/ukrainische-pilot-gibt-abschuss-von-mh17-zu-meinungsfreiheit/
 Diktatur, Luftfahrt, Propaganda, Putin, Russland, Ukraine, USA, Verschwörungen
Ukrainischer Pilot gibt Abschuss von MH17 zu
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d47_1406539037
German OSCE Guy Interviewing Ukraine Soldiers in Captivity
<The Soldier on the left at the end of the video (fighting for the civil defense) comes from germany too and says jokingly to the OSCE guy: "be careful,they could think that the germans are coming here again to occupy this country like in 1941".
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d47_1406539037#AHUGHrHYZ2dHhD3p.99>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-bbc-report-ukrainian-fighter-jet-shot-down-mhi7-donetsk-eyewitnesses/5393631
Deleted BBC Report. “Ukrainian Fighter Jet Shot Down MHI7″, Donetsk Eyewitnesses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67OGUsQC44&feature=youtu.be
Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140728/191397950/Lavrov-Says-MH17-Crash-Investigation-Raises-Suspicion.html
Lavrov Says MH17 Crash Investigation Raises Suspicion
The investigation into the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine casts doubt upon US claims, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-malaysian-airline-mh17-crash-sixteen-central-issues-which-cannot-be-ignored/5393296
The Malaysian Airline MH17 Crash: Sixteen Central Issues Which Cannot be Ignored
In establishing who was behind the shooting down of MH17, there are a number of central issues as well as factual evidence which cannot be overlooked: . . 1. Malaysian Airlines confirmed that the ...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag/5393317

https://irenecaesar.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/malaysia-airlines-mh17-zio-nazi-cia-mi6-mossad-mivd-terrorist-act-in-ukraine/
Malaysia Airlines MH17: Zio-Nazi CIA MI6 Mossad MIVD Terrorist Act in Ukraine
Malaysian Airlines did not load food onto the plane. The retrieved refrigerators did not contain any food containers.
Malaysian plane could have been downed ONLY by air-to-air missiles and explosives on board, say experts, since it lacks multiple holes on its bottom, characteristic of the surface-to-air missiles by the BUK missile launcher.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/27/notes-on-mh17/
Breaking: Russian Satellite Imagery on MH17
We have made note of several findings thus far.  We have noted that were a missile used, an exhaust trail would have been visible for many miles and would have been photographed.  It was not and, thus, never existed.  Locals were questioned, none saw a launch nor exhausts.

The Russians have finally allowed someone to send us their video of MH17.  Judge for yourself.  We stick to “bomb” but are taking this under advisement:
http://scgnews.com/flight-mh17-what-youre-not-being-told
Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told
http://rt.com/usa/175980-us-images-russia-ukraine/
US releases satellite images 'proving' Russia is firing into Ukraine
The ministry listed the international makeup of those inspections, which include representatives from the US, as well as NATO and Ukraine.

“No instances of violations by Russia along the Ukrainian border had been registered by the inspectors,” the ministry said. “Frequent action by the Ukrainian military taking place on the Russian border has hindered our own ability to perform similar inspections and flybys along our border,” it continued.
http://on.rt.com/lg3xj1
'Not terrorists': Hysteria over MH17 fails to take account of both law and facts
It’s not every day you see a blog published on Oxford University Press (OUP) that is so riddled with legal flaws, you would pull your hair out in frustration if a student had composed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05l4ZAMNS-U
Pilot Calls Malaysia Flight MH17 A False Flag Like 9/11 xx
http://politicalvelcraft.org/.../flight-mh17-likely-shot.../
Flight MH-17 Likely Shot Down By Kolomoisky NATO Coordination: Russia Issues Arrest Warrant For Ukrainian Oligarch Kolomoisky.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/july/20/what-the-media-won%E2%80%99t-report-about-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17.aspx
What the Media Won’t Report About Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/25/mh17-sacrificed-airliner/
the New Cold War
MH17 – Sacrificed Airliner
The Ukrainian rebels handed over the black boxes to international authorities. The investigation can begin. It hopefully will begin, unobstructed by political maneuvering.
The formula is simple: Dutch tourists do count. Ukrainian villagers don’t. It was quite similar during Nazi control of Europe.
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http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/22/abschuss-mh17-us-regierung-legt-erstes-satelliten-foto-vor/

Der Grund dürfte darin liegen, dass das Foto nicht von der CIA stammt, sondern wie am Copyright-Vermerk am linken unteren Bildrand unschwer zu erkennen ist, von der privaten Bildagentur DigitalGlobe aus Nevada, die laut Eigenbeschreibung als privater Dienstleister für Geheimdienste arbeitet. Auffällig: Das Foto stammt aus dem Jahr 2010.
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/23/usa-blasen-zum-rueckzug-putin-ist-nicht-schuld-am-abschuss-von-mh17/

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USA blasen zum Rückzug: Putin ist nicht schuld am Abschuss von MH17
Die amerikanischen Geheimdienste blasen zum Rückzug: Sie erklärten am Dienstag vor Medienvertretern in Washington, dass es keine direkte Verbindung der russischen Regierung zum Abschuss von MH17 gebe. Die CIA kann nicht ausschließen, dass die Schützen aus der Ukraine gekommen sind.
Daher schickten die Geheimdienste am Dienstag CNN vor: Sie drehten dem Sender ein Foto aus dem Jahr 2010 mit einer Power-Point-Skizze an – als Beleg für die Täterschaft der Rebellen (mehr zu dieser skurrilen Aktion – hier).
http://www.infowars.com/kiev-source-ukraine-accidentally-shot-down-mh17-during-exercises/

Kiev Source: Ukraine Accidentally Shot Down MH17 During Exercises
Buk missile system confused Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 with Ukrainian fighter jets
A source within the Ukrainian defense department claims that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was accidentally shot down by Ukrainian troops during a military exercise in near Donetsk which took place on July 17.

“On July 17 the commanding officer of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment was instructed to conduct a training exercise of ground troops stationed near Donetsk, which involved deploying the troops, and carrying out a routine tracking and destroying of targets with the Buk-M1 missile,” the source told RIA Novosti.
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/dutch-pilot-says-mh17-could-have-veered-off-flight-path-in-bad-weather
Dutch pilot says MH17 could have veered off flight path in bad weather
 MAS operations director Captain Izham Ismail has also refuted claims that heavy weather led to MH17 changing its flight plan.

"There were no reports from the pilot to suggest that this was the case," Izham said.
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http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/07/25/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag-attack/
MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed False Flag

but it would have been near impossible for the alleged rebel gunman occupying this relatively small rebel-held patch of land to make a visual sighting of MH17 and acquire the target during the 1-2 minute window they would have had (assuming they were even in possession of the BUK missile system).
After that, the autopsy of the bodies would reveal additional evidence about what really took place on July 17th. A present, the majority of the remains are being handled by the Netherlands government, and given their NATO involvement to date in the Ukrainian conflict, it’s debatable whether or not they would present any findings which do not square with Washington and Kiev’s narrow, yet ever-evolving narrative of the incident.
http://rt.com/op-edge/175568-urkaine-mh17-crash-conflict/
Is Kiev lying? Or is Kiev lying?
http://journal-neo.org/2014/07/24/malaysian-aircraft-incident-every-us-war-starts-with-a-lie/
Malaysian Aircraft Incident: Every US War Starts With A Lie | New Eastern Outlook
24.07.2014 Author: Caleb MaupinMalaysian Aircraft Incident: Every US War Starts With A Lie Column: Politics Region: USA in the WorldThe US news media is buzzing about the Malayasian airline which was downed from the sky in Ukraine. Some questions are being raised. Some are asking “Why did Ukrainian…
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/24/washington-escalating-orchestrated-ukrainian-crisis-war-paul-craig-roberts/
Washington Is Escalating the Orchestrated Ukrainian “Crisis” to War -- Paul Craig Roberts -...
Washington Is Escalating the Orchestrated Ukrainian “Crisis” to War Paul Craig Roberts Despite the conclusion by US intelligence that there is no evidence
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http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/video-report-deleted-by-bbc/
The Catastrophe of #MH17: #BBC in the Search of the “#BUK” – The Video Report Deleted by @BBC
Eyewitness #2: … And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.

Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.

Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].
http://rt.com/news/175476-bbc-deleted-report-mh17/
Censorship or error? Internet criticism for BBC removal of MH17 report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8sjMWhl-4
Катастрофа рейса MH17 Би би си в поисках Бука 23 07 2014, LQ
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http://rt.com/news/175444-armed-police-ukraine-mh17/
Armed Australian police to deploy to MH17 crash site
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/25/amerikaner-werden-nervoes-hat-die-ukraine-den-abschuss-von-mh17-ausgeloest/
Amerikaner werden nervös: Hat die Ukraine den Abschuss von MH17 ausgelöst?
Die Amerikaner haben erstmals eingeräumt, dass sich ein Kampf-Jet der Ukraine in der Nähe von Flug MH17 befunden haben könnte. Dieser Jet könnte die Rebellen provoziert haben, in Richtung der malaysischen Maschine zu schießen. In diesem Fall hätte die Ukraine und damit die Amerikaner als militärisch…
<Das MH17 von einem Ukrainischen Militärflurzeug abgeschossen wurde ist für mich mit 99% Sicherheit gewährleistet. Wurde MH17 von einer BUCK Rakete beschossen? Das könnte auch der Fall sein. Was wir wissen ist das die Separatisten kein Flugzeug haben und Kiew die Flugdaten nicht freigeben will und die Amerikaner die Satelliten Bilder.>

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39208.htm
The Tragedy of MH17

A Chessboard Drenched in Blood
The damaged MH17 starboard jet engine suggests a shape charge from an air-to-air missile - and not a Buk; that's consistent with the Russian Ministry of Defense presentation graphically highlighting an Ukrainian SU-25 shadowing MH17. Increasingly, the Buk scenario - hysterically peddled by the Empire of Chaos - is being discarded. Not to mention, again, that not a single eyewitness saw the very graphic, thick missile trace that would have been clearly visible had a Buk been used.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-intentional-downing-of-malaysian-airlines-mh17-fake-evidence-and-political-criminality-at-the-highest-levels-of-us-government/5392794
The Intentional Downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17: “Fake Evidence” and “Political Criminality” at the Highest Levels of the US Government
Criminological Remarks. The U.S. almost immediately adverted to the ragtag rebel, missile scenario.
In essence, the previous effort concluded that the MH 370 and MH 17 events are probably not independent of one another. The argument was based on evidence common to the two events (such as loss of communicative contact and apparent course diversion) together with associated probabilistic reasoning.
Notice that advancing an “accident” explanation serves several U.S. interests.  To date on MH 17, the U.S. can produce no real evidence in support even of its ragtag rebel, missile launcher account:
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/742165
OSCE mission has free access to Malaysian airliner crash site
Currently, twelve OSCE representatives and also Malaysian experts are working at the plane’s crash site
http://de.ria.ru/society/20140724/269100434.html
Kiew zu Boeing-Absturz: Keine Vorwürfe an Russland

Die ukrainische Regierung, die nach dem Absturz der malaysischen Boeing von einer Mitschuld Russlands gesprochen hat, distanziert sich nun von den Anschuldigungen. Es habe sich nicht um Vorwürfe, sondern um Mutmaßungen gehandelt, so der Kiewer Sicherheits- und Verteidigungsrat am Donnerstag.
http://de.ria.ru/post_soviet_space/20140724/269102127.html
Ukrainische Regierung zurückgetreten

Nach dem Zerfall der Regierungskoalition „Europäische Wahl“ in der Werchowna Rada der Ukraine hat Regierungschef Arseni Jazenjuk am Donnerstag seinen Rücktritt bekannt gegeben.
http://www.infowars.com/pilots-heard-ukrainian-air-traffic-control-order-mh17-to-change-route/
Pilots Heard Ukrainian Air Traffic Control Order MH17 to Change Route
Russia accuses Kiev of tampering with ATC recordings

Pilots on board an Air India Dreamliner which was flying just 90 seconds behind Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 say they heard Ukrainian air traffic control give the order for the doomed plane to change route minutes before MH17 was shot down by a missile.

According to a report in the Times of India, “Minutes before the crash caused by a missile strike, the AI pilots…. heard the controller give the Malaysian aircraft MH17 what is called “a direct routing”. This permits an aircraft to fly straight, instead of tracking the regular route which is generally a zig-zag track that goes from one ground-based navigation aid or way point to another.”

The AI Dreamliner was less than 25km away from MH17 when it was shot down, a flying distance of just 90 seconds.
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.fi/2014/07/mh17-killing-innocent-civilians-in.html
MH17: Killing Innocent Civilians in Order to Save Fascism for Ukraine and NATO Expansionism
According to the colonel, at 16:19:45, a Ukrainian jet fighter targeted the Boeing with an air-to-air missile R-60. The missile damaged the right engine of the Boeing. The Boeing was hit, but still managed to stay in the air. However, in doing so, the Boeing turned 180 degrees to the left. It was at this moment that the false flag attack started falling apart.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/ukraine-coalition-government-collapses-as-2-parties-quit.html
Ukraine Coalition Government Collapses as 2 Parties Quit
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http://de.ria.ru/post_soviet_space/20140724/269101685.html
Der ukrainische Regierungschef Arseni Jazenjuk ist zurückgetreten. Das wurde am Donnerstag in der ukrainischen Hauptstadt Kiew offiziell mitgeteilt.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/24/malaysian-crash-obama-case-against-russia-disintegrates.html
On Malaysian Crash, Obama's Case Against Russia Disintegrates
This dramatic turn of events started with State Department Spokeswoman Marie Harf claiming Monday that the State Department's certainty of Russian involvement in the apparent downing of the plane was primarily based on "social media" evidence.

That means with a likely budget of more than $100 billion, the US Intelligence Community is making decisions that may involve global nuclear war based on people's Tweets and YouTubes!
Who needs evidence — it's "common sense"! Right?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/u-s-officials-missile-may-launched-defector-ukrainian-military-trained-use-similar-missile-systems.html
U.S. Officials: The Missile May Have Been Launched By a “Defector from The Ukrainian Military Who Was Trained To Use Similar Missile Systems”
http://www.infowars.com/insane-1-in-10-americans-wants-war-with-russia-over-downed-airliner/
INSANE: 1 in 10 Americans Wants War With Russia Over Downed Airliner
85 percent believe Russia is responsible for missile attack
http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/2014/07/ard-widerlich-auf-kosten-der-mh17-opfer.htm
ARD: Widerlich, auf Kosten der MH17-Opfer - Faktenhttp://www.ad-hoc-news.de/neues-deutschland-nva-raketenspezialist-mh17-nicht-von--/de/News/37955823
BERLIN OTS - AUS SICHT EINES EXPERTEN SEI DER ABSCHUSS DER MALAYSISCHEN BOEING AM 17 :: AD HOC NEWS
Berlin ots Aus Sicht eines Experten sei der Abschuss der malaysischen Boeing am 17 Juli über der Ostukraine durch eine bodenständige Flugabwehr Rakete mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit auszuschlieen Zu dieser...
Zu dieser Einschätzung kommt Oberst a. D. Bernd Biedermann in einem Beitrag für die in Berlin erscheinende Tageszeitung "neues deutschland" (Donnerstagausgabe). Hätten Splitter einer Boden-Luft-Raketen das Flugzeug getroffen, wäre es sofort in Brand geraten, argumentiert der NVA-Fla-Raketenspezialist. Ursache sei die "großen Reibungshitze, die Splitter beim Durchschlagen des Flugkörpers erzeugen. Ein einziger enthält die gleiche kinetische Energie wie ein 40 Tonnen schwerer Güterwagen, der mit 60 Kilometern pro Stunde auf einen Prellbock läuft." Im Falle der malaysischen Boeing seien erst nach dem Aufschlag auf dem Boden vereinzelte Brände ausgebrochen, weil heiße Flugzeugteile mit brennbaren Materialien in Berührung gekommen waren. Biedermann ist mit sowjetischer und russischer Flugabwehrtechnik vertraut, er führte Einheiten im Diensthabenden System der DDR und lehrte an der Militärakademie in der Fachrichtung Fla-Raketentruppen
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http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/2014/07/ardreuters-jetzt-erfinden-wir-buk.html
 ARD/Reuters: Jetzt erfinden wir BUK-Raketen!
Keine BUK-Raketen? Macht nichts. Was nicht paßt wird passend gemacht. Die ARD tischt auffallend häufiger – wenn sich die Propagandaabteilung des Herrn Gniffke nicht selbst die Finger schmutzig machen will – Lügen aus anderen Quellen als Tatsachen auf; ohne eigene Recherche oder Verifizierung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9RwiDRkDTM
Ukraine: OSCE inspector describes inspection of crash MH17 site
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDjVRPMsu4
U.S. Admits It's MH17 'Evidence' is Based on YouTube Clips & Social Media Posts
The Obama Administration continues to reiterate its narrative on what happened to Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 with more certainty (and often different deta...
<infowars plus Wattson>
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 it was Russia, oops no it wasn't, it was rebels, oops no it wasn't it was a Ukrainian defector still wearing his Ukie uniform with other people wearing Ukie uniforms...honestly, someone needs to give these people one brain cell to share between them. Translation: we gave those stupid fucks a pile of money and they couldn't even come up with a credible false flag
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http://www.weltexpress.info/cms/deutsch/news-singleview/archive/2014/07/22/article/robert-parry-usa-haben-belege-fuer-boeing-abschuss-durch-ukrainisches-militaer.html
Robert Parry: USA haben Belege für Boeing-Abschuss durch ukrainisches Militär
Moskau/Russland, Washington/USA (WELTEXPRESS). Die USA verfügen laut dem amerikanischen Investigatio...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3c3BpRm6V8
BBC News - Dutch forensic team 'impressed' by work at MH17 crash site
http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.de/2014/07/was-die-gerichtsmediziner-vor-ort-sagen.html?m=1
 Was die Gerichtsmediziner vor Ort sagen

Die niederländischen Gerichtsmediziner haben sich sehr positiv über die Arbeit der lokalen Sicherheitskräfte an der Absturzstelle geäussert.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/22/the-mystery-of-a-ukrainian-army-defector/
The Mystery of a Ukrainian Army ‘Defector’

http://rt.com/news/174868-ukraine-buk-falsification-continues/
Bogus photos of ‘Russian’ air-defense systems in Ukraine debunked by bloggers

Ukraine continues to concoct evidence of Russia’s air defense system’s involvement in the Boeing tragedy. This time Ukraine’s secret service has published as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqcx0eUYag
U.S. Govt: MH17 Stance Based On Obvious Social Media Hoaxes
<no traffic controll tapes released by Kiev>
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/abschuss-von-mh17-separatisten-verwischen-ihre-spuren-13053934.html
OSZE-Experten mit Warnschüssen zurückgedrängt
<Die Scheißkerle lügen wie gedruckt wen es eigentlich umgekehrt war. Die Kiew Nazis haben versucht die Untersuchungen so weit wie möglich zu behindern. Habe einige Videos gesehen die das bestätigen.>

http://www.globalresearch.ca/key-piece-of-video-evidence-for-russian-responsibility-for-malaysian-plane-shootdown-debunked/5392624
Key Piece of Video “Evidence” for Russian Responsibility for Malaysian Plane Shootdown Debunked
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh17-another-false-flag-operation-by-the-us-nato-israel-war-cabal/5392658
Malaysian Airlines MH17: Another "False Flag Operation" by the US-NATO-Israel War Cabal?
One would have thought that the Zionist Anglo-American war cabal would learn from their failures in propaganda warfare, especially now when their credibility is at rock bottom. Post 9-11 and the Ir.
http://rt.com/news/174332-ukraine-plane-photo-perverted/
Perverted truth: How rebel mourning MH17 victims was turned into looter with trophy
Twitter is quick, but too quick sometimes – recently it burst with photos of an evil Ukrainian militiaman who took a teddy bear from the victim of Malaysia plane crash as a trophy. But the full video shows he was just paying the tribute to the dead.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/wolfowitz-doctrine-us-plans-for-russia-2945824.html
WOLFOWITZ DOCTRINE – US PLANS FOR RUSSIA
http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-american-propaganda-works-guilt-by-insinuation/5392573
How American Propaganda Works: "Guilt By Insinuation"
President Putin has repeatedly stressed that the investigation of MH-17 requires “a fully representative group of experts to be working at the site under the guidance of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).” Putin’s call for an independent expert examination by ICAO does not sound like a person with anything to hide.
http://rt.com/news/174596-osce-bociurkiw-mh17-crash/
Expert access to MH17 crash site 'fairly good' - OSCE mission
It took four days for international experts to gain access to the crash site. The reason is that even after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced a 40-kilometer ceasefire zone around the crash site, Malaysian experts came under heavy shelling from the Ukrainian army while making their way within the ceasefire zone
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/16/neo-leaked-documents-show-us-embassy-in-ukraine-is-staging-false-flag/
NEO – Leaked documents show US Embassy in Ukraine is Staging False Flag
www.veteranstoday.com
- Evidence has led to the discovery of plans to stage a series of terror attacks in the Ukraine to be blamed on Russian Special Forces.
http://de.rian.ru/society/20140722/269075985.html
Journalist: USA haben Belege für Boeing-Abschuss durch ukrainisches Militär

Die USA verfügen laut dem amerikanischen Investigationsjournalisten Robert Parry über Satellitenbilder, die belegen, dass die malaysische Boeing MH17 vom ukrainischen Militär abgeschossen worden ist.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/07/ukraine-rebels-hand-over-plane-black-boxes-2014721215615698236.html
Ukraine rebels hand over plane black boxes
The move comes after a UN Security Council resolution demanded full and unrestricted access to the crash site.
http://rt.com/op-edge/174420-ukrainian-government-civil-war/
Ukraine is a dysfunctional country, not because of Russia’
Ukrainian government does not seem to make any concessions that could bring this civil war to an end, Ken Livingstone, former London Mayor and British Labour Party politician, told RT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFSRUGulOQY
Ewald Stadler: EU (=USA) soll aufhören, Länder gegen Russland auszuspielen
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/21/russland-ukrainischer-kampf-jet-war-vor-abschuss-in-der-naehe-von-mh17/
Russland: Ukrainischer Kampf-Jet war vor Abschuss in der Nähe von MH17

Der russische Generalstab hat am am Montag Radar-Bilder und Schaubilder vorgelegt. Diesen Bildern zufolge soll ein ukrainischer Kampf-Jet vom Typ SU (Suchoi)-25 in unmittelbarer Nähe von Flug MH17 gewesen sein, bevor die Maschine abgeschossen wurde. Außerdem soll es Belege geben, die zeigen, die die
http://shar.es/NV1gH
Malaysian Airlines MH17 Was Ordered to Fly over the East Ukraine Warzone
On the matter of MH17’s flight path, Malaysian Airlines confirms that the pilot was instructed to fly at a lower altitude by the Kiev air traffic control tower upon its entry into Ukraine airspace....
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In response to the satellite images and data from Russia, the U.S. State Department has outlined its own "evidence" that Russia-backed separatists are responsible for downing Malaysia Airlines flight MH-17.

What is the evidence? It is "a statement posted on the website of the U.S. embassy to Ukraine that says the flight was "likely downed by a SA-11 surface-to-air missile from separatist-controlled territory in eastern Ukraine.”

In other words, the US "evidence" is a statement, which is an argument of an obstinate five-year old: "It is so because I say so."

The only fact in this U.S. Department "evidence" is that we have established that the US Embassy to Ukraine has a website on which it is able to to make statements, which the corporate media then present as "evidence."
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http://rt.com/news/174544-un-probe-malaysia-plane/
‘Kiev will have to answer many questions’ as UN urges intl MH17 crash probe – Moscow envoy
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http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/
10 more questions Russian military pose to Ukraine, US over MH17 crash
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741675
Russia ready to hand over Malaysian plane flight data to ICAO
Earlier in the day, the Russian Defense Ministry released a video that showed the movement of civil aircraft over Ukraine on the approaches to Russia’s airspace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR5HtzbMy-E
Whistleblower: Ukrainian Troops Shot Down MH17
<Paul Watson>
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.br/2014/07/the-russian-military-finally-speaks.html
The Russian military finally speaks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qHzJH0o_I
Ukraine: Bodies of MH17 victims sealed in train by OSCE
http://on.rt.com/y023f2
MH17 black boxes to be handed over to Malaysian authorities - Malaysian PM
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak says the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 black boxes will be handed over to the Malaysians in Donetsk at 9pm Ukrainian time. The bodies of 282 victims of the crash are to be flown to Amsterdam.
http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pages/statement-MH17-2014-07-18.aspx
"Die Ukraine trägt die Verantwortung für die Führung ihres Luftraums"

International Air Transport Association IATA - Statement
( Internationale Luftverkehrs-Vereinigung)

"Airlines depend on governments and air traffic control authorities to advise which air space is available for flight, and they plan within those limits.

It is very similar to driving a car. If the road is open, you assume that it is safe. If it’s closed you find an alternate route. "
http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.ch/2014/07/video-mit-raketentransporter-ist-eine.html
Video mit Raketentransporter ist eine Fälschung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PycJMxUL8x8
Flug MH17:Weitere Falschmeldung die verbreitet wird (entlarvte Medienlüge)
http://de.ria.ru/society/20140721/269069490.html
Boeing-Crash: Ukraine betrieb am Absturztag mehr Radare als sonst
Am Tag des tödlichen Absturzes der malaysischen Boeing über der Ost-Ukraine hat das russische Militär nach eigenen Angaben eine angestiegene Intensität ukrainischer Radare registriert. Zusätzliche Radaranlagen sollen wenige Tage vor der Katastrophe eingeschaltet und danach wieder abgeschaltet worden…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeOrlnljhEQ
Gigantische mediale Hetzjagd gegen Russland (wo sind die Beweise?!)
http://nsnbc.me/2014/07/21/kiev-attacks-donetsk-headquarters-mh17-response/
Kiev Attacks Donetsk, Headquarters for MH17 Response
Reuters reported that the NATO-backed regime in Kiev has launched an offensive on the eastern city of Donetsk, Donetsk province. In its article, "Fighting e
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-show-tell-its-the-wests-turn-russian-satellites-and-radars-contradict-wests-baseless-claims/5392468
MH17 Show & Tell: It's the West's Turn - Russian Satellites and Radars Contradict West's...
Russia has now shown its satellite pictures and radar information from the Donetsk, Ukraine region during the July 17, 2014 Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash. The Wall Street Journal reported in ...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/kiev-attacks-donetsk-headquarters-for-mh17-response/5392382

Kiev Attacks Donetsk, Headquarters for MH17 Response
Reuters reported that the NATO-backed regime in Kiev has launched an offensive on the eastern city of Donetsk, Donetsk province. In its article, "Fighting erupts in Ukraine as crash investigators a...
http://www.infowars.com/whistleblower-u-s-satellite-images-show-ukrainian-troops-shooting-down-mh17/
Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17
Source tells award winning reporter Washington lying about responsibility for tragedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpeo5RcQQo
Пресс-конференция представителей минобороны России по крушению Boeing-777
"A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday."

with english interpreter who follows the speaker's words, not synchronised
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/20/wrong-aircraft-identified-as-malaysia-flt-mh-17-fuels-doubts/
Wrong Aircraft Identified As Malaysia Flt MH-17 Fuels Doubts
http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=610598
Here is the full, possibly game-changing briefing by the Russian Ministry of Defense-both in Russian and English
http://russian.rt.com/article/41842
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, at the time of the crash of Boing 777 in the skies over Ukraine on July 17 near the borderline was a Ukrainian Air Force plane, presumably Su-25.
Distance of the Ukrainian Su-25 from Boing 777 amounted to five kilometers, which fits into the range parameters of "air-to-air" missiles, which such aircraft are equipped with. Original article:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Russian military
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/07/kiev-attacks-donetsk-headquarters-for.html
Kiev Attacks Donetsk, Headquarters for MH17 Response

"The provincial capital is being used as a headquarters to coordinate the cleanup, recovery, and investigation of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. The attack on Donetsk by Kiev's forces will further complicate efforts to recovery bodies, bring impartial, international investigators to the crash site, and arrive at the truth of what happened to the doomed flight
http://www.voltairenet.org/article184810.html
Malaysia MH17 crash: 10 questions Russia wants Ukraine to answer

http://rt.com/news/174268-ukraine-mh17-crash-putin/
Putin: Taskforce at Malaysia MH17 crash site not enough, full-scale team of intl experts needed
The tragic Malaysian MH17 flight crash must not be politicised and the international experts on the scene should be able to carry out their work in complete safety, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.


http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118765/putins-lockerbie-why-russias-propaganda-machine-high-gear
The Malaysia Airlines Disaster Is Vladimir Putin's Lockerbie Bombing
<western propaada and lies. Just BS!>
<The Lockerbie bombings by the way were done by the CIA>
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http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/21/mh-17-beware-of-the-chameleon.html
MH-17: Beware of the «Chameleon»
The 10-day NATO exercise code named «BREEZE 2014» has ended in Black Sea. The exercise, which included the use of electronic warfare and electronic intelligence aircraft such as the Boeing EA-18G Growler and the Boeing E3 Sentry Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS), coincided with the shootdown of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 in eastern Ukraine, some 40 miles from the Russian border. NATO ships and aircraft had the Donetsk and Luhansk regions under total radar and electronic surveillance.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741521
Kiev’s evidence of militia’s responsibility for airliner crash faked - expert
A group of experts studied the tape and came to the conclusion that it was made up of numerous unrelated recordings
http://www.infowars.com/what-happened-to-the-malaysian-airliner/
What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJuC26JElUU&list=UUSe1WCAujovQdGx7mPBGEKQ
Flug MH17:Verschwundene Tweets/Ignorierte Augenzeugen und wichtige Aussage!
http://on.rt.com/aj1ilc
What could be MH17 data recorders found in E. Ukraine, taken to Donetsk – militia
Items, presumably the data recorders from the crashed Malaysian plane, have been found and delivered to Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine, according to the leader of the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis
1997 Asian financial crisis

The foreign ministers of the 10 ASEAN countries believed that the well co-ordinated manipulation of their currencies was a deliberate attempt to destabilize the ASEAN economies. Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad accused George Soros of ruining Malaysia's economy with "massive currency speculation." (Soros claims to have been a buyer of the ringgit during its fall, having sold it short in 1997.)
<Soros failed at making a few billion $ by short selling ringgit when Mahathir pegged the ringgit for about 5 years. IMF took over Thailand and Indonesia in that year and nearly bankrupted the two countries.
I suspect Soros and IMF were pretty pissed off. >

http://de.ria.ru/society/20140719/269056061.html
Nach Boeing-Absturz: Moskau fordert von Kiew Offenlegung der Flugabwehrdaten
Nach dem Absturz des malaysischen Passagierjets im Raum von Donezk in der Ostukraine hat Moskau von der Führung in Kiew gefordert, alle Daten zur ukrainischen Luftabwehr im Konfliktgebiet offenzulegen.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741271
Militias do not have Ukrainian Buk missile system — Ukraine general prosecutor
Ukrainian Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said on July 17 that the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 airliner had been downed by the Buk missile system
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/mh17/investigators-struggle-to-reach-mh17-crash-site-in-strife-torn-ukraine/article1-1242173.aspx
MH17: Cui Bono? The Answer is in.... via Reuters:
MH17: Ukraine, rebels argue over wreck, Dutch give Putin 'last chance' - See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/mh17/investigators-struggle-to-reach-mh17-crash-site-in-strife-torn-ukraine/article1-1242173.aspx#sthash.le2iTr94.dpuf
"After US President Barack Obama said the loss of the Kuala Lumpur-bound flight showed it was time to end the conflict, Germany called it Moscow's last chance to cooperate. European powers seemed to swing behind Washington's belief Russia's separatist allies were to blame. That might speed new trade sanctions on Moscow, without waiting for definitive proof."

So there you have it - they laid their last card out on the table before the crash, and it was a joker, so now they rigged the deck and dealt again...

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July Part II

 don't forget that Malaysian PM (Mahathir) thwarted the IMF and Soros takeover of the Malaysian currency in the Asian Financial crisis of 1998 (?).
Soros failed at making a few billion $ by short selling ringgit when Mahathir pegged the ringgit for about 5 years. IMF took over Thailand and Indonesia in that year and nearly bankrupted the two countries.
I suspect Soros and IMF were pretty pissed off. I was there at the time and for 18 years

https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/05/13

War Tribunal Finds Bush, Cheney Guilty of War Crimes
Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal orders reparations be given to torture victims
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraines-security-service-has-confiscated-air-traffic-control-recordings-with-malaysian-jet/5392197
Ukraine’s Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recordings With Malaysian Jet
What happens to the recordings next is completely unknown. What is known is that any hope of getting an undoctored explanation why the plane flew as it did, or what the pilots may have seen or said in the moments before the explosion, is forever gone.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpur-tribunal-finds-israel-guilty-of-crimes-against-humanity-genocide/5359404
Kuala Lumpur Tribunal finds Israel Guilty of Crimes against Humanity, Genocide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MH370/MAS370)[a] was a scheduled international passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing that disappeared on 8 March 2014 at 01:20 MYT (17:20 UTC, 7 March)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-190714.html
It was Putin's missile!
By Pepe Escobar
 Malaysia, by the way, is the seat of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission, which has found Israel guilty of crimes against humanity

http://www.globalresearch.ca/flight-mh17-conjures-mh370-exposing-western-deception-was-it-a-staged-event/5392222
Flight MH17 Conjures MH370, Exposing Western Deception, Was it a Staged Event?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh370-and-mh17-a-criminologist-questions-what-are-the-probabilities-is-it-a-mere-coincidence/5392265
Malaysian Airlines MH370 and MH17. A Criminologist Questions: What are the Probabilities? Is it a Mere Coincidence?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37129.htm#idc-cover
War Crimes Tribunal Finds Israel Guilty Of Genocide Against The Palestinian People
In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior.

http://www.investor-verlag.de/malaysia-airlines-flug-mh17-was-geschah-wirklich/120200031/
Malaysia Airlines Flug MH17: Was geschah wirklich?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/5391888

Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing MH#17

http://www.globalresearch.ca/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/5391888
This report has yet to be fully corroborated and should be read with caution. We have highlighted relevant sections.

The Spanish air controller confirms a conflict between the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of the Interior intimating that the order concerning the downing of the aircraft came from the Ministry of the Interior, which is dominated by Svoboda and Right Sector
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ch/2014/07/memories-recollection-guesses-and.html
Memories, recollections, guesses and speculations about MH17
http://rt.com/news/173976-mh17-crash-questions-ukraine/
Malaysia MH17 crash: 10 questions Russia wants Ukraine to answer
rt.com

Some Western states and Kiev rushed to find Russian involvement in the MH17 crash having no evidence to back their claims, Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister told RT. He invited Ukraine to answer 10 questions to prove their commitment to an impartial probe.
Speaking to RT, Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov has criticized Western countries for jumping to conclusions just “24 hours after the crash” while there is no evidence. “It seems to me that this is part of information warfare which has been started against the Russian Federation and armed forces,” he said.
http://www.infowars.com/reminder-u-s-plotted-to-provoke-shoot-down-of-airliner-to-create-pretext-for-war/
Reminder: U.S. Plotted to Provoke Shoot Down of Airliner to Create Pretext for War
Plotting to stage downing of an airliner & start a war is insane, except when 'Murica does it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMgIpC-bCfQ
Evidence to Frame Russia For MH17 Shoot Down Fabricated?
Evidence presented by Ukraine to implicate Russia in the shoot down of the Malaysian Airlines plane appears to have been fabricated.
<infowars paul wattson>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/was-ukraines-ministry-of-interior-behind-the-downing-of-malaysian-airlines-mh17/5391909
Was Ukraine's Ministry of Interior behind the Downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17?
A division of Buk missile systems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was, according to Pravda deployed to the Donetsk Oblast on July 15, two days before the downing of the Malaysian airlines MH17 flight...
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/twa.php
Was TWA 800 Shot Down By a Military Missile?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17
Ukraine Releases YouTube Clip "Proving" Rebels Shot Down Malaysian Flight MH-17
http://rghost.net/private/56950510/78d787acfabcaf840cfa213e7221a060
creation_time:     2014-07-16 19:10:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM
BUSTED! Ukraine Caught Trying to 'Frame Russia' for Shooting Down Malaysia Flight MH17!


Published on Jul 17, 2014

I have to say, They were gonna fool a whole lot of people with this one! Thankfully, they have been caught!
The Ukraine Government supported a youtube clip that they say proves Russia had involvement and that Rebels shot down Malaysia Flight MH17. However, Due to their sloppy work, They have been caught! They have since tried to delete the file, but not before it was downloaded over 800 times! More info at links!
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Während jetzt die ganze Welt mit dem Thema Flugzeug beschäftigt ist.. bringt die ukrainische Armee weiterhin "ungehindert" unschuldige Menschen um. Deren Leben scheint offensichtlich nicht annähernd so viel Wert zu sein, wie das der Passagiere im Flugzeug!
 Videos 18+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPGxdcGPJCg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ1mxrbyaz0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY9tNUy6Jyg
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http://www.eturbonews.com/48079/ukraine-air-traffic-controller-suggests-kiev-military-shot-down-
Ukrainian millitary escorted B777 until 3 minutes before disappearing Ukraine air traffic ...
ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of .
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http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/214197.html
Ukrainian prosecutor general says militants did not seize Ukrainian air defense launchers
en.interfax.com.ua
Members of illegal armed units have not seized air defense launchers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donetsk, Ukrainian Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema said.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741271
Militias do not have Ukrainian Buk missile system — Ukraine general prosecutor
Ukrainian Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said on July 17 that the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 airliner had been downed by the Buk missile system
http://german.ruvr.ru/news/2014_07_18/Spanischer-Fluglotse-Zwei-ukrainische-Militarflugzeuge-waren-neben-der-Boeing-vor-deren-Schwund-8124/
Spanischer Fluglotse: Zwei ukrainische Militärflugzeuge waren neben der Boeing vor deren Schwund
Zwei ukrainische Militärflugzeuge wurden neben der Malaysia-Boeing wenige Minuten vor deren Sturz entdeckt. Das schrieb ein spanischer Fluglotse, der die Maschine gesteuert hatte, in seinen Twit

http://shar.es/NEkom
Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 Downed Over Warzone Ukraine. Who Was Behind It? Cui Bono?
www.globalresearch.ca

At no juncture during the Ukrainian crisis could the downing of flight MH17 have been more convenient for NATO and its proxy regime in Kiev. Kiev's forces in eastern Ukraine are being repealed. I...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine-admits-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html
Ukraine admits it shot down Russian airliner
12:01AM BST 13 Oct 2001
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10974050/Malaysia-Airlines-plane-crashes-on-Ukraine-Russia-border-live.html
Malaysia Airlines plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live
The rebels say that they only have anti-aircraft weapons capable of downing aircraft up to 3000 meters - well short of the 10,000 meter cruising altitude of commercial airliners.

The most sophisticated surface to air missile system known to be in rebel hands is the Strela-10, a Soviet designed system with a ceiling of about 3,000 meters. The rebels say they have used it to down several Ukrainian aircraft in recent days.

But earlier this week the Ukrainians said a missile brought down one of their transport aircraft at over 6000 meters - which they said meant it was probably fired on by regular Russian forces from the other side of the border rather than the militia.
Malaysia Airlines confirms it received notification from Ukrainian ATC that it had lost contact with flight MH17 at 1415 (GMT) at 30km from Tamak waypoint, approximately 50km from the Russia-Ukraine border
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The US is leveling sanctions on Russia for "destabilizing" Ukraine? Let's not forget who was literally in Ukraine during the "Euromaidan" supporting the armed overthrow of the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych by Neo-Nazis. Tony Cartalucci

That's how it started.

In reality, the US is sanctioning Russia for opposing America's destabilization of Ukraine.

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