My MH17 Link Collection

From July to September 2014
The articles are mainly in English and German. Some are in Finnish and Russian.
It will take me a day or two to create an article.

MH17

Link collection from July to September 2014 about the downed MH17 plane in: German, Enlish, Russian and Finnish
The Malaysian passenger plane shot down by whom and what?
Motive and possibilities

1. Russia shot down the plane via a Russian military plane. Nobody is accusing Russia for this
2. Russian troops inside Ukraine shot down the plane. Nobody is accusing Russia of this either
3. The Russian separatists in Ukraine shot down the plane via a BUK system. Aka ground to air missile but a ground to air missile will burn the plane and the corpses and neither had the separatists a full functioning BUK missile system nor the training to use one. On the other hand the corpses were not burned nor the airplane it suggests the plane was brought down by a Ukrainian military plane. Eye witnesses did not report any of the marks in the sky ( a line of black smoke or burned corpses ) that would suggest ground to air missiles. Round holes in cockpit suggest machine gun fire from a fighter jet.

There are accusations that the rebels were hndering the investigations on the crash site and that rebel soldiers were looting the remains which turned out as false and cheap propaganda.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbb3HinQqVU&list=RDfbb3HinQqVU&index=1
Die Anstalt - ZDF 23. September 2014 | 23.09.2014
Making fun out of the lies of the war mongering USA-NATO. In German

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-sa-m8zqg
Klippi Saksan "riippumattomasta" mediasta.
Saksassa sensuroitu pätkä ZDFn Die Anstalt-showsta. Suosittelen kaikille. 20 min. elämästäsi, joka kannattaa käyttää ajatellen samalla Suomea ja Suomen media...
In German with Finnish subs
14:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOfQ7tgTLg
"The information war for Ukraine" - Satirical German program "Die Anstalt" (Eng Subs)

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http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/23/usa-blasen-zum-rueckzug-putin-ist-nicht-schuld-am-abschuss-von-mh17/
USA blasen zum Rückzug: Putin ist nicht schuld am Abschuss von MH17
Die CIA kann nicht ausschließen, dass die Schützen aus der Ukraine gekommen sind.
Use google translate

http://rt.com/news/189428-germany-plane-sue-ukraine/
‘Liable for damage’: Families of Germans killed in MH17 crash to sue Ukraine

http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/dutch-expert-ukraine-body-recovery-team-for-mh17-crash-did-a-hell-of-a-job
Dutch expert: Ukraine body recovery team for MH17 crash ‘did a hell of a job’
HRABOVE (Ukraine), July 21 — The Dutch head of a team sent to identify the victims of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 praised the Ukrainian recovery workers who collected hundreds of bodies from a giant swathe of land in a war zone for doing a “hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZBSGorpLNc
MH17 Crash: Ukrainian media stories about looting of toy and wedding ring proven FAKE!
Ukrainian media has posted stories claiming that the separatist guarding the site where Malaysian flight MH17 crashed, are looting the site. Two stories are ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiu2s-8MRJA&feature=youtu.be
MH17 Investigators Feel Very Comforatble and Very Safe Working With Separatists on Investigation

Australia Airforce Chief Marshall Angus Houston Speaks Commander of the Royal Australian Air Force Air Marshal Angus Houston Quote: "We see that people separ...

http://theantimedia.org/russian-journalist-who-photographed-mh17-crash-found-dead-in-ukraine/
Russian Journalist Who Photographed MH17 Crash Found Dead In Ukraine

http://www.globalresearch.ca/camouflage-and-coverup-the-dutch-commission-report-on-the-malaysian-mh17-crash-is-not-worth-the-paper-its-written-on/5400990
Camouflage and Coverup: The Dutch Commission Report on the Malaysian MH17 Crash is "Not Worth...
The wordings "penetrated" & "high-energy objects" are interesting. It remains unclear how far these "objects" entered, or even if they went through the entire cockpit and came out on the other...

http://rt.com/news/186812-mh17-report-russia-churkin/
Dutch preliminary MH17 crash report leaves too many questions – Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHrf58mMxsQ&list=UUrrCdyt6wyb03hCyod2phSA
Absturz von MH17. Keine wissenschaftliche Untersuchung
Das Mitte Juli über der Ostukraine abgestürzte malaysische Passagierflugzeug MH17 ist vor dem Auseinanderbrechen in der Luft von zahlreichen Objekten "durchl...
<contact cutted off at 13:22, no burning = no surface to air missile>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlIZQBN4j5I
Erwin Pelzig: Willkommen im Kriegswinter 2014 - Pelzig hält sich 09.09.2014 ZDF - Bananenrepublik
German anti war comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVdwUdlswOY
PROOF U.S. is Lying. Deleted BBC (Russia) Report into MH17 (Eng Subs)
The BBC pulled this broadcast in total panic when they realised the evidence of the eye witnesses did not correspond to the narrative the US & their NATO all...

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/09/08/flug-mh17-bundesregierung-besteht-auf-geheimhaltung-von-funkspruechen/
Flug MH17: Bundesregierung besteht auf Geheimhaltung von Funksprüchen
Die Bundesregierung hat in der Antwort auf eine Anfrage der Links-Partei eine Aussage zu den

https://www.freitag.de/autoren/stebenbla/und-es-waren-doch-ukrainische-kampfjets
Und es waren doch ukrainische Kampfjets!

MH-17-Abschuss Immer mehr Beweise und Indizien deuten daraufhin, dass nicht die Separatisten im Osten der Ukraine, sondern das ukrainische Militär die MH-17 abschoss...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-preliminary-report-plane-hit-by-large-number-of-high-energy-objects/5400517
MH17 Preliminary Report: Plane Hit by “Large Number of High-Energy Objects"
On July 17, Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed in eastern Ukraine while en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, killing all 298 people on board. The cause of the crash is still not clear, with ...

http://www.jungewelt.de/2014/09-09/050.php
Verschlußsache MH17 - junge Welt -
Bundesregierung hat keine »gesicherten Erkenntnisse« über den Absturz einer malaysischen Passagiermaschine.
<Die haben keine Beweise gegen Russland. Warum boykottieren sie dann Russland? Und warum verlangen sie nicht die Aufzeichnung zwischen dem Piloten und der Flugsicherung?>

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140909/192763263/Preliminary-Report-on-MH17-Released-Crash-Caused-By-Multiple.html
Flight MH17 operated by Malaysia Airlines broke up in the air probably as the result of structural damage caused by a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside.

http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/p/mh17-antwort-der-bundesregierung-auf.html
MH17 - Antwort der Bundesregierung auf Anfrage der Linken

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/747743
Experts ask Donetsk militia to comb MH17 crash site for small belongings
First deputy prime minister Andrei Purgin of Ukraine’s self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic says international experts are no longer interested in debris of the plane

http://www.globalresearch.ca/crashes-of-convenience-mh17-fully-exposed-the-shocking-truth-about-the-ukraine-false-flag/5397934
Crashes of Convenience: MH17 Fully Exposed - The Shocking Truth About the Ukraine False Flag
When Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 went down on July 17, 2014, we were immediately inundated with base propaganda trying to convince us that the shootdown could be traced back to the Kremlin. But wha...

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/08/27/selective-outrage-over-ukraine-pows.html
Selective Outrage over Ukraine POWs > Strategic-Culture.org - Strategic Culture Foundation
http://rt.com/op-edge/183132-only-truth-flight-mh17/
Death & lies: The only truth of flight MH17
The day Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 fell to Earth in pieces, everyone in our world was told Russia and Vladimir Putin murdered the 298 people aboard.

http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-294-crashes-of-convenience-mh17/
Episode 294 – Crashes of Convenience: MH17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWlAARb0fN4
MH17 FULLY EXPOSED!! You Won't Believe The SHOCKING TRUTH About the Ukraine FALSE FLAG

http://de.ria.ru/society/20140818/269326400.html
Russland fordert von Uno Bericht zum MH17-Absturz
Mehr als einen Monat nach dem bislang ungeklärten Absturz des malaysischen Passagierjets über der

http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/politik/19456-hacker-kiew-plante-abschuss-von-mh17
Eine russische Hacker-Gruppe hat den Schriftverkehr ukrainischer Behörden geknackt. Daraus geht hervor, dass der Abschuss von MH17 von langer Hand geplant war.
An dem Schriftverkehr war der ukrainische Verteidigungsminister beteiligt. Auch der Oligarch Igor Kolomouskij wurde erwähnt. In dem Schriftverkehr ging es um die Frage, wie im Nachinein die Presse über den Absturz von MH17 berichten sollte.
http://de.ria.ru/zeitungen/20140819/269332145.html
MH17-Katastrophe: Die Wahrheit hinter dem Schweigen westlicher Medien
Malaysia besteht auf einer Bestrafung der am Absturz der Boeing 777 am 17. Juli in der Ukraine Schuldigen, schreibt die "Nesawissimaja Gaseta" am Dienstag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_R2NA1txc
UKRAINE Eyewitness Confirm Military Jet Flew Besides MH17 Airliner: BBC Censors Video 25Jul2014

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-downing-cia-analysts-wont-support-white-house-claims-of-russian-culpability/5397090
MH17 Downing: CIA Analysts Won’t Support White House Claims of Russian Culpability

http://www.schweizmagazin.ch/nachrichten/ausland/20535-MH17-Absturz-Niederlande-wollen-nicht-alle-Daten-offenlegen.html
Schweiz Magazin - Das Schweizer Nachrichten online Magazin - MH17 Absturz: Niederlande wollen...

MH17 Absturz: Niederlande wollen nicht alle Daten offenlegen

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016100316
OSCE monitor tells CBC Canada that MH17 cockpit has holes made by heavy machine gun fire. -...

http://journal-neo.org/2014/08/19/another-journalist-exposes-mh17-false-flag/
Another Journalist Exposes MH17 False Flag | New Eastern Outlook
19.08.2014 Author: William EngdahlAnother Journalist Exposes MH17 False Flag Column: Politics Region: USA in the WorldThere has been much commentary concerning the downing of the MH17 plane in Ukraine. Strangely enough, whenever the US position is presented it is not backed by credible evidence, but…

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/08/16/mh370-and-mh17-vanishing-point/
MH370 and MH17 — Vanishing point…
Follow the engine wreckage. Follow the cockpit wreckage. Follow the motive. One cannot even imagine the tectonic geopolitical plates clashing were the Kiev regime to be deemed responsible. It would be the vanishing point for the whole – warped – notion of the Empire of Chaos’s “indispensable” exceptionalism.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/745569
Russia to ask UN to make MH17 crash investigation report
The Security Council called for an immediate end to all armed hostilities in the crash area and urged the militiamen in eastern Ukraine to secure the crash site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYXRhZSt7Yc#t=103
Russischer TV Bericht: Kiew plante Abschuss von Flug MH17 lange im Voraus

http://www.globalresearch.ca/cover-up-why-have-the-media-and-obama-administration-gone-silent-on-mh17/5396372
Cover-Up? Why Have the Media and Obama Administration Gone Silent on MH17?
The deafening silence of the US media and government about the investigation into the downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 one month ago reeks of a cover-up. In the hours and days immediately ...
If the evidence that is in Washington’s hands incriminated only Russia and the Russian-backed forces, it would have been released to feed the media frenzy against Putin. If it has not been released, this is because the evidence points to the involvement of the Ukrainian regime in Kiev and its backers in Washington and the European capitals.

http://www.verkkomedia.org/news.asp?mode=3&id=11432
Ukrainan ilmavoimat todennäköinen syyllinen lennon MH17 alasampumisessa Itä-Ukrainassa
Todisteet kasvavat, että Ukrainan ilmavoimia on pidettävä todennäköisenä syyllisenä malesialaisen matkustajakoneen...

http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
By Haris Hussain - 7 August 2014 @ 8:20 AM
KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/09/mala-a09.html
Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_67273.shtml
Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17
“Intelligence analysts in the United States have already concluded that Malaysia flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it. This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a jet that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.”
http://4bitnews.com/world-at-war/malaysia-accuses-us-eu-backed-ukraine-regime-mh17-shoot/
Malaysia accuses US and EU backed Ukraine regime of MH17 shoot-down - 4bitNEWS

Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the full backing of the Malaysian state.

http://rt.com/usa/179284-ron-paul-mh17-ukraine/
Ron Paul: US 'likely hiding truth' on downed Malaysian Flight MH17
"It’s hard to believe that the US, with all of its spy satellites available for monitoring everything in Ukraine, that precise proof of who did what and when is not available," the two-time presidential candidate said.

"Too bad we can’t count on our government to just tell us the truth and show us the evidence," Paul added. "I’m convinced that it knows a lot more than it’s telling us."
http://www.verkkomedia.org/news.asp?mode=3&id=11432
Ukrainan ilmavoimat todennäköinen syyllinen lennon MH17 alasampumisessa Itä-Ukrainassa
Todisteet kasvavat, että Ukrainan ilmavoimia on pidettävä todennäköisenä syyllisenä malesialaisen matkustajakoneen alasampumisessa 17.7. Itä-Ukrainassa. Todisteita BUK-ohjuksen osumasta ei ole löydetty, mutta hävittäjän ampuman konetykin osumia matkustajakoneesta löytyy.

http://rt.com/news/178712-ceasefire-ukraine-plane-mh17/
Kiev ends ceasefire at MH17 crash site

http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/support-mh17-truth-osce-monitors-identify-shrapnel-like-holes-indicating-shelling-no-firm-evidence-of-a-missile-attack/5394324
"Support MH17 Truth": OSCE Monitors Identify "Shrapnel and Machine Gun-Like Holes" indicating...
The OSCE confirms the existence of "machine gun like holes", without acknowledging that these cannot be caused by a missile. Were these small holes caused by a GSh-302 firing gun (rpm 3000) operat...

http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/2014/08/mh17-ard-presseclub-gratscht-rein.html
Hinter der Fichte: MH17: ARD-Presseclub grätscht rein.
NATO-Mann der Süddeutschen. „Es gibt eine Fülle von Indizien. Die westlichen Regierungen sind mittlerweile wirklich überzeugt davon, dass es ungebrochen einen Fluss von schwerem Kriegsgerät aus Russland in die Ukraine gibt.“ Jedes Kleinkind würde hier fragen: Woher willst´n das wissen? Nicht so die ARD.

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/28/berlin-zweifelt-erstmals-an-kiew-ukrainische-armee-nimmt-absturzstelle-von-mh17-unter-beschuss/
Berlin zweifelt erstmals an Kiew: Ukrainische Armee beschießt Absturzstelle
Erstmals äußert die Bundesregierung leise Kritik an der von ihr bisher bedingungslos unterstützten Regierung in Kiew:

http://www.srf.ch/news/international/nur-mithilfe-der-rebellen-kommen-wir-zur-absturzstelle
«Nur mithilfe der Rebellen kommen wir zur Absturzstelle»
Seit Tagen versuchen die OSZE-Beobachter in der Ukrainer zur Absturzstelle von Flug MH17 zu gelangen. Der Vize-Chef der Mission, der Schweizer Alexander Hug, beschreibt, welch ein Spiessrutenlauf das ist.

http://youtu.be/Eiu2s-8MRJA
MH17 Investigators Fell Very Comforatble and Very Safe Working With Speratists on Investiagtion

Australia Airforce Chief Marshall Angus Houston Speaks
Contrary to Western media: "We found the separatists there to be professional, co-operative & essentially helpful to our purposes of removing remains & perhaps later on removing wreckage." - Commander of the Royal Australian air force Air Marshal Angus Houston

http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/List_of_MH17_airframe_parts
List of MH17 airframe parts

http://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/940136.reibungshitze-haette-alles-entflammt.html
MH17 wurde nicht von einer Flugabwehrrakete getroffen
"Aus Sicht eines Experten ist ein Abschuss der Boeing 777 Flug MH 17 durch eine bodenständige Flugabwehrrakete mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit als Absturzursache auszuschließen. Diese Einschätzung ist trotz des unglaublichen Medienrummels möglich, wenn man sich an fachlich fundierte Erkenntnisse und Erfahrungen hält."

http://en.ria.ru/burning_point/20140730/191488438/We-Need-all-Kinds-of-Sanctions-Against-US-for-Its-Global.html
"We need all kinds of sanctions against the US for their multicriminal global policies, a kind of hegemony by the mafia. This is not the way we can continue. If we do not want the third world war, we should start the stopping procedure right now," Christoph R. Hörstel, German political analyst, told in an exclusive interview with Radio VR, analyzing the Boeing tragedy in the context of US broader global policies.

How does the US response to ‪#‎MH17‬ tragedy measure up against America’s bad habit of using false pretexts to justify attacks against other countries? Do you agree with Mr. Hörstel?
JETZT WIRD ABGERECHNET!
Wenn wir unsere Freunde in Washington nicht rechtzeitig stoppen, droht ihre Kurzsicht-Politik den europäischen Kontinent anzuzünden.
Erster Schritt: schonungslose Benennung der Tatsachen.
Dann: eiligste Vorbereitung & Durchführung politischer Schritte.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNMj-M-GDl0
<Investigating MH17 (Low)>
Susan Ormiston sits down with Michael Bociurkiw, the Canadian who was part of the first international monitors at the MH17 crash site.
Ausserdem besitzt die Su-25 1 × doppelläufige 30-mm-Maschinenkanone KBP Grjasew-Schipunow GSch-30-2 mit 250 Schuss Munition
Achtung, hier ist der vom Mainstream versteckte Beweis: M. Bociurkiw, einer der ersten OSZE-Ermittler am Wrack, bestätigt Einschüsse an der Aussenhaut von ‪#‎MH17‬ inkl. Bildern. (Ab min. 6:00, englisch) Empfehle download bevor es verschwindet. Es handelt sich um Einschüsse von Projektilen. Er spricht von Maschinengewehrkugeln. Dafür spricht auch die Aufnahme. Das kann nur ein Kampfjet. 30mm-Geschosse vom Boden erreichen keine 10 km.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-and-the-economic-backlash-of-us-sanctions-against-russia-the-rush-to-war/5394187
MH17 and the Economic Backlash of US Sanctions against Russia: The Rush to War?
Citing the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 as impetus, US President Barack Obama announced stronger sanctions against Russia leveled by both the US and EU. This comes after previous sancti...

http://rt.com/news/174596-osce-bociurkiw-mh17-crash/
Expert access to MH17 crash site 'fairly good' - OSCE mission
It took four days for international experts to gain access to the crash site. The reason is that even after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced a 40-kilometer ceasefire zone around the crash site, Malaysian experts came under heavy shelling from the Ukrainian army while making their way within the ceasefire zone.

http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/07/22/osce-says-full-access-mh17-crash-site-given-july-20/
OSCE says full access to MH17 crash site given on July 20
KUALA LUMPUR, July 22:

The Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OCSE) said they were given full access to the crash site of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Flight MH17 on July 20 after initially being given only partial access.

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/742998
Russia gives UN, OSCE data from objective monitoring over MH17 crash site - Churkin
Russia “makes any contribution to investigating the tragedy”, Churkin said
http://original.antiwar.com/chris_ernesto/2014/03/14/brzezinski-mapped-out-the-battle-for-ukraine-in-1997/
Brzezinski Mapped Out the Battle for Ukraine in 1997

It's all about maintaining the US position as the world's sole superpower
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/wolfowitz-doctrine-us-plans-for-russia-2945824.html
WOLFOWITZ DOCTRINE – US PLANS FOR RUSSIA

http://on.rt.com/hg8mhs
Russia fears Kiev trying to destroy implicating MH17 evidence
Kiev authorities may be seeking to “destroy evidence” which implicates their role in the crash of the Malaysian jet, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin said, expressing concerns over the ongoing military operation in E. Ukraine in breach of UN resolution.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111
The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes...If we now consider the armament of a typical SU 25 we learn this: It is equipped with a double-barreled 30-mm gun, type GSh-302 / AO-17A, equipped with: a 250 round magazine of anti-tank incendiary shells and splinter-explosive shells (dum-dum), arranged in alternating order. The cockpit of the MH 017 has evidently been fired at from both sides: the entry and exit holes are found on the same fragment of it’s cockpit segment!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-nato-fast-track-war-plans-after-failed-mh17-false-flag-washington-attempts-bold-new-moves-to-frame-russia/5393925
US-NATO “Fast-Track War Plans”. After Failed MH17 False Flag, Washington Attempts Bold New Moves to Frame Russia
After their total failure to blame eastern Ukrainian Rebels and Moscow for what appears to be Kiev forces shooting down Fight MH17 on July 17th, Washington and its NATO allies have shifted their propaganda strategy in a new attempt to implicate Russia for international war crimes…

Over the weekend, Washington used its US ambassador to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, to launch another fabricated social media post designed to blame Russia for “firing artillery over its border into the Ukraine”.
Twitter Bombed: Pyatt’s tweeting turned out to be a bad joke. It’s a wonder he still has a job.

http://bit.ly/1ppJ7Lw
MH17/Rußland: ARD bis SPIEGEL im TIME Tunnel
http://truthcdm.com/undeniable-mh17-shot-with-30-cal-gun-by-ukraine-aircraft/
UNDENIABLE MH17 SHOT WITH 30 cal GUN BY UKRAINE AIRCRAFT
Apparently, the OSCE representative meant automatic gun. Ukrainian Su-25, which, according to the Russian Defense Ministry was seen next to the “Boeing”, just equipped with not only missiles, but also built-in double-barreled 30-milimitrovoy gun. Ammunition – 250 rounds.

http://nsnbc.me/2014/07/29/blocking-mh17-probe/
Who is blocking MH17 probe? Why?
Dutch and Australian police teams have this week for the second time had to cancel plans to investigate the crash site of the downed Malaysia airliner in Uk

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/07/ukraine-pentagon-sees-ballistic-missile-launches-why-then-no-mh17-data.html
M of A - Ukraine: Pentagon Sees Ballistic Missile Launches - Why Then No MH17 Data?
Pentagon officials tell CNN (video) that the Ukrainian government fired three ballistic missiles towards the federalists during the last 48 hours. Such missiles have ranges from 50 miles up to some 600 miles and carry warheads with some 1,000 pounds or more of explosives.
http://german.ruvr.ru/news/2014_07_29/Ukrainischer-Pilot-der-Su-25-behauptet-die-Boeing-abgeschossen-zu-haben-5917/
Ukrainischer Pilot der Su-25 behauptet, die Boeing abgeschossen zu haben
Ein ukrainischer Flieger, Pilot eines Schlachtflugzeuges Su-25, hat in einem Interview mit der deutschen Ausgabe Wahrheit für Deutschland die Verantwortung für die Vernichtung des Passagier

http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/
Schockierende Analyse zum Abschuss der Malaysian MH 017

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20140729000007&cid=1101&MainCatID=11
Malaysia says Ukraine must bear responsibility for MH17｜Politics｜News｜WantChinaTimes.com
www.wantchinatimes.com

Malaysia has stated for the first time that it believes the Ukrainian government ought to bear responsibility for the fatal crash of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, according to a report from Singaporean newspaper Lianhe Zaobao.

<<<It is amazing how, when it comes to really caring about finding the truth about MH17, the "international community" and the corporate media don't even bother to ask Poroshenko and the regime in Kiev to give full and immediate access to the Ukrainian air traffic controllers, Buk missiles, radar data, recordings, etc.>>>

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67OGUsQC44&feature=youtu.be
Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told

http://www.globalresearch.ca/cui-bono-who-benefits-from-the-mh17-catastrophe/5393658
Cui Bono? – Who Benefits From the #MH17 Catastrophe?
This video documentary by TV ZVEZDA provides analysis and witness reports from the the very location in the Donesk oblast, where the plane was downed Video: TV ZVEZDA Documentary – Who Benefits fro...

http://amr.amronline.de/2014/07/25/ukrainische-pilot-gibt-abschuss-von-mh17-zu-meinungsfreiheit/
 Diktatur, Luftfahrt, Propaganda, Putin, Russland, Ukraine, USA, Verschwörungen
Ukrainischer Pilot gibt Abschuss von MH17 zu

http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-bbc-report-ukrainian-fighter-jet-shot-down-mhi7-donetsk-eyewitnesses/5393631
Deleted BBC Report. “Ukrainian Fighter Jet Shot Down MHI7″, Donetsk Eyewitnesses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67OGUsQC44&feature=youtu.be
Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140728/191397950/Lavrov-Says-MH17-Crash-Investigation-Raises-Suspicion.html
Lavrov Says MH17 Crash Investigation Raises Suspicion
The investigation into the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine casts doubt upon US claims, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-malaysian-airline-mh17-crash-sixteen-central-issues-which-cannot-be-ignored/5393296
The Malaysian Airline MH17 Crash: Sixteen Central Issues Which Cannot be Ignored
In establishing who was behind the shooting down of MH17, there are a number of central issues as well as factual evidence which cannot be overlooked: . . 1. Malaysian Airlines confirmed that the

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag/5393317

https://irenecaesar.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/malaysia-airlines-mh17-zio-nazi-cia-mi6-mossad-mivd-terrorist-act-in-ukraine/
Malaysia Airlines MH17: Zio-Nazi CIA MI6 Mossad MIVD Terrorist Act in Ukraine
Malaysian Airlines did not load food onto the plane. The retrieved refrigerators did not contain any food containers.
Malaysian plane could have been downed ONLY by air-to-air missiles and explosives on board, say experts, since it lacks multiple holes on its bottom, characteristic of the surface-to-air missiles by the BUK missile launcher.
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/27/notes-on-mh17/
Breaking: Russian Satellite Imagery on MH17
We have made note of several findings thus far.  We have noted that were a missile used, an exhaust trail would have been visible for many miles and would have been photographed.  It was not and, thus, never existed.  Locals were questioned, none saw a launch nor exhausts.

The Russians have finally allowed someone to send us their video of MH17.  Judge for yourself.  We stick to “bomb” but are taking this under advisement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPNfpWScXGM
Satellite Shows Kolomoisky Forces Fire on MH17
Russian military satellite shows Kiev missile fired at MH17
Boris, the issue was whether anyone could prove a missile is fired. We have evidence of planted wreckage made to look like a missile attack and real wreckage that looks like a large bomb was placed on the plane.
Thus, we give Washington 24 hours to present their own evidence or we accept Russia's.
This is only fair...even if it is "he who lies best wins."
http://scgnews.com/flight-mh17-what-youre-not-being-told
Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told
http://rt.com/usa/175980-us-images-russia-ukraine/
US releases satellite images 'proving' Russia is firing into Ukraine
The ministry listed the international makeup of those inspections, which include representatives from the US, as well as NATO and Ukraine.

“No instances of violations by Russia along the Ukrainian border had been registered by the inspectors,” the ministry said. “Frequent action by the Ukrainian military taking place on the Russian border has hindered our own ability to perform similar inspections and flybys along our border,” it continued.

http://on.rt.com/lg3xj1
'Not terrorists': Hysteria over MH17 fails to take account of both law and facts
It’s not every day you see a blog published on Oxford University Press (OUP) that is so riddled with legal flaws, you would pull your hair out in frustration if a student had composed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05l4ZAMNS-U
Pilot Calls Malaysia Flight MH17 A False Flag Like 9/11

http://politicalvelcraft.org/.../flight-mh17-likely-shot.../
Flight MH-17 Likely Shot Down By Kolomoisky NATO Coordination: Russia Issues Arrest Warrant For Ukrainian Oligarch Kolomoisky.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/july/20/what-the-media-won%E2%80%99t-report-about-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17.aspx
What the Media Won’t Report About Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/25/mh17-sacrificed-airliner/
the New Cold War
MH17 – Sacrificed Airliner
The Ukrainian rebels handed over the black boxes to international authorities. The investigation can begin. It hopefully will begin, unobstructed by political maneuvering.
The formula is simple: Dutch tourists do count. Ukrainian villagers don’t. It was quite similar during Nazi control of Europe.
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http://german.ruvr.ru/news/2014_07_26/Moskau-wirft-Washington-offenkundige-Luge-vor-8698/
Moskau wirft Washington offenkundige Lüge vor

Dabei wird angemerkt, dass Washington und möglicherweise Kiew das Internet mir derartigem Informationsmüll bestücken.

In diesem Zusammenhang schlägt Moskau den USA vor, zehn Fragen des russischen Verteidigungsministeriums und 22 Fragen von Rosaviazia zu beantworten.

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/22/abschuss-mh17-us-regierung-legt-erstes-satelliten-foto-vor/

Der Grund dürfte darin liegen, dass das Foto nicht von der CIA stammt, sondern wie am Copyright-Vermerk am linken unteren Bildrand unschwer zu erkennen ist, von der privaten Bildagentur DigitalGlobe aus Nevada, die laut Eigenbeschreibung als privater Dienstleister für Geheimdienste arbeitet. Auffällig: Das Foto stammt aus dem Jahr 2010.
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/23/usa-blasen-zum-rueckzug-putin-ist-nicht-schuld-am-abschuss-von-mh17/

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USA blasen zum Rückzug: Putin ist nicht schuld am Abschuss von MH17
Die amerikanischen Geheimdienste blasen zum Rückzug: Sie erklärten am Dienstag vor Medienvertretern in Washington, dass es keine direkte Verbindung der russischen Regierung zum Abschuss von MH17 gebe. Die CIA kann nicht ausschließen, dass die Schützen aus der Ukraine gekommen sind.
Daher schickten die Geheimdienste am Dienstag CNN vor: Sie drehten dem Sender ein Foto aus dem Jahr 2010 mit einer Power-Point-Skizze an – als Beleg für die Täterschaft der Rebellen (mehr zu dieser skurrilen Aktion – hier).
http://german.ruvr.ru/news/2014_07_26/Washington-gibt-zu-Beschuldigungen-gegen-Russlands-fu-en-auf-Internet-4657/
Washington gibt zu: Beschuldigungen gegen Russlands fußen auf Internet
german.ruvr.ru

Die US-Behörden geben zu, dass die Schlussfolgerungen über Artilleriebeschuss der Ukraine vonseiten Russland auf Informationen aus den sozialen Netzwerken basieren. Dies teilte Josh Ernest,

Das Land mit der besten Satelliten- und elektronischen Aufklärung auf der Welt kann keine Beweise für den Abschuss der malaysischern Maschine liefern und bezieht sich stattdessen auf gefakte und dilletant zusammengeschnipselte Videos und Interviews im Internet!

http://www.infowars.com/kiev-source-ukraine-accidentally-shot-down-mh17-during-exercises/

Kiev Source: Ukraine Accidentally Shot Down MH17 During Exercises
Buk missile system confused Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 with Ukrainian fighter jets
A source within the Ukrainian defense department claims that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was accidentally shot down by Ukrainian troops during a military exercise in near Donetsk which took place on July 17.

“On July 17 the commanding officer of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment was instructed to conduct a training exercise of ground troops stationed near Donetsk, which involved deploying the troops, and carrying out a routine tracking and destroying of targets with the Buk-M1 missile,” the source told RIA Novosti.

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/dutch-pilot-says-mh17-could-have-veered-off-flight-path-in-bad-weather
Dutch pilot says MH17 could have veered off flight path in bad weather
 MAS operations director Captain Izham Ismail has also refuted claims that heavy weather led to MH17 changing its flight plan.

"There were no reports from the pilot to suggest that this was the case," Izham said.
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http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/07/25/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag-attack/
MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed False Flag

but it would have been near impossible for the alleged rebel gunman occupying this relatively small rebel-held patch of land to make a visual sighting of MH17 and acquire the target during the 1-2 minute window they would have had (assuming they were even in possession of the BUK missile system).
After that, the autopsy of the bodies would reveal additional evidence about what really took place on July 17th. A present, the majority of the remains are being handled by the Netherlands government, and given their NATO involvement to date in the Ukrainian conflict, it’s debatable whether or not they would present any findings which do not square with Washington and Kiev’s narrow, yet ever-evolving narrative of the incident.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/kyiv-denies-holding-russia-responsible-for-downing-two-su-25-warplanes-357802.html
Kyiv denies holding Russia responsible for downing two Su-25 warplanes
www.kyivpost.com

Ukraine has not accused Russia of shooting down Ukrainian military planes in the military operation area in the eastern part of the country but only suggested it as one of the theories of the July 23 incident, Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko said.

http://rt.com/op-edge/175568-urkaine-mh17-crash-conflict/
Is Kiev lying? Or is Kiev lying?
http://journal-neo.org/2014/07/24/malaysian-aircraft-incident-every-us-war-starts-with-a-lie/
Malaysian Aircraft Incident: Every US War Starts With A Lie | New Eastern Outlook
24.07.2014 Author: Caleb MaupinMalaysian Aircraft Incident: Every US War Starts With A Lie Column: Politics Region: USA in the WorldThe US news media is buzzing about the Malayasian airline which was downed from the sky in Ukraine. Some questions are being raised. Some are asking “Why did Ukrainian…
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/24/washington-escalating-orchestrated-ukrainian-crisis-war-paul-craig-roberts/
Washington Is Escalating the Orchestrated Ukrainian “Crisis” to War -- Paul Craig Roberts -..

http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/video-report-deleted-by-bbc/
The Catastrophe of #MH17: #BBC in the Search of the “#BUK” – The Video Report Deleted by @BBC
Eyewitness #2: … And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.

Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.

Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].

http://rt.com/news/175476-bbc-deleted-report-mh17/
Censorship or error? Internet criticism for BBC removal of MH17 report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8sjMWhl-4
Катастрофа рейса MH17 Би би си в поисках Бука 23 07 2014, LQ
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http://rt.com/news/175484-hrw-rockets-killed-civilians/
HRW blames Kiev army for indiscriminately killing civilians with missiles
The Ukrainian army is using indiscriminate Grad missiles to attack densely populated areas in Donetsk, which violates international humanitarian law, Human Rights Watch confirmed. It also blamed militia for taking cover in those areas.

The rights organization confirmed four rocket attacks by the Ukrainian military, or Kiev-allied paramilitary, on residential areas in or near Donetsk, which resulted in at least 16 civilian deaths and many more wounded. The attacks were carried out with Grad multiple rocket weapon systems, highly indiscriminate weapons that cannot be used against populated areas

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/25/amerikaner-werden-nervoes-hat-die-ukraine-den-abschuss-von-mh17-ausgeloest/
Amerikaner werden nervös: Hat die Ukraine den Abschuss von MH17 ausgelöst?
deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de

Die Amerikaner haben erstmals eingeräumt, dass sich ein Kampf-Jet der Ukraine in der Nähe von Flug MH17 befunden haben könnte. Dieser Jet könnte die Rebellen provoziert haben, in Richtung der malaysischen Maschine zu schießen. In diesem Fall hätte die Ukraine und damit die Amerikaner als militärisch…
<Das MH17 von einem Ukrainischen Militärflurzeug abgeschossen wurde ist für mich mit 99% Sicherheit gewährleistet. Wurde MH17 von einer BUCK Rakete beschossen? Das könnte auch der Fall sein. Was wir wissen ist das die Separatisten kein Flugzeug haben und Kiew die Flugdaten nicht freigeben will und die Amerikaner die Satelliten Bilder.>
http://itar-tass.com/proisshestviya/1338055
Эксперты: Boeing был сбит украинским Су-25 и должен был упасть на территории России
http://www.ridus.ru/news/164316
Russian top mil official: "Boeing was hit by Ukrainian CY-25 and suppose to crash down on Russian Territory"
http://ukraine-human-rights.org/ukrainian-government-bans-communist-party-and-murders-member/
Ukrainian government bans communist party and murders member
http://on.rt.com/5bkqqy
US and allies ‘in no position to lecture anyone on the sanctity of human life’ (Op-Edge)
The destruction of a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft over eastern Ukraine nobody disputes is a terrible tragedy. The alacrity with which Washington and its allies have sought to exploit this tragedy to attack Russia has been as unedifying as it has been despicable.
John Wight: The stridency when it comes to the tragic deaths of the 298 people on the Malaysian airliner has been significantly absent when it comes to the comparable number of civilians slaughtered in Gaza as a result of Israel’s ongoing brutal military assault. The hypocrisy here is striking, if not surprising. For many years Washington and its European allies have provided political cover for Israel’s war crimes vis-à-vis the Palestinians and its Arab neighbors. They are in no position to lecture anyone on the sanctity of human life.

http://internetz-zeitung.eu/index.php/2209-linke-werden-in-der-ukraine-zu-tode-gefoltert-die-linke-verboten
Der Sekretär der kommunistischen Zelle im Dorf Glinki (Donezk), Stellvertreter des Rates Dorf Vyacheslav, Kovshun wurde gefoltert und ermordet.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39208.htm
The Tragedy of MH17

A Chessboard Drenched in Blood
The damaged MH17 starboard jet engine suggests a shape charge from an air-to-air missile - and not a Buk; that's consistent with the Russian Ministry of Defense presentation graphically highlighting an Ukrainian SU-25 shadowing MH17. Increasingly, the Buk scenario - hysterically peddled by the Empire of Chaos - is being discarded. Not to mention, again, that not a single eyewitness saw the very graphic, thick missile trace that would have been clearly visible had a Buk been used.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-intentional-downing-of-malaysian-airlines-mh17-fake-evidence-and-political-criminality-at-the-highest-levels-of-us-government/5392794
The Intentional Downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17: “Fake Evidence” and “Political Criminality” at the Highest Levels of the US Government
Criminological Remarks. The U.S. almost immediately adverted to the ragtag rebel, missile scenario.
In essence, the previous effort concluded that the MH 370 and MH 17 events are probably not independent of one another. The argument was based on evidence common to the two events (such as loss of communicative contact and apparent course diversion) together with associated probabilistic reasoning.
Notice that advancing an “accident” explanation serves several U.S. interests.  To date on MH 17, the U.S. can produce no real evidence in support even of its ragtag rebel, missile launcher account:
http://ai-zhilin.livejournal.com/1419422.html
Чем больше информации , тем чудовищней картина трагедии.
Aleksandr Zhilin, a Russian Air Force Colonel from Moscow, offers now a short write-up with a map of the very last moment of the MH17 flight with the indication of a sharp 180 degree U-turn following the loss of its right engine after being hit by a R-60 air-to-air missile from a Ukrainian fighter jet.

http://www.infowars.com/pilots-heard-ukrainian-air-traffic-control-order-mh17-to-change-route/
Pilots Heard Ukrainian Air Traffic Control Order MH17 to Change Route
Russia accuses Kiev of tampering with ATC recordings


Pilots on board an Air India Dreamliner which was flying just 90 seconds behind Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 say they heard Ukrainian air traffic control give the order for the doomed plane to change route minutes before MH17 was shot down by a missile.

According to a report in the Times of India, “Minutes before the crash caused by a missile strike, the AI pilots…. heard the controller give the Malaysian aircraft MH17 what is called “a direct routing”. This permits an aircraft to fly straight, instead of tracking the regular route which is generally a zig-zag track that goes from one ground-based navigation aid or way point to another.”

The AI Dreamliner was less than 25km away from MH17 when it was shot down, a flying distance of just 90 seconds.
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.fi/2014/07/mh17-killing-innocent-civilians-in.html
MH17: Killing Innocent Civilians in Order to Save Fascism for Ukraine and NATO Expansionism
According to the colonel, at 16:19:45, a Ukrainian jet fighter targeted the Boeing with an air-to-air missile R-60. The missile damaged the right engine of the Boeing. The Boeing was hit, but still managed to stay in the air. However, in doing so, the Boeing turned 180 degrees to the left. It was at this moment that the false flag attack started falling apart.

http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/2014/07/ard-widerlich-auf-kosten-der-mh17-opfer.htm
ARD: Widerlich, auf Kosten der MH17-Opfer - Fakten
http://www.sahra-wagenknecht.de/de/article/1941.merkel-folgt-usa-in-den-wirtschaftskrieg.html
Merkel folgt USA in den Wirtschaftskrieg (Sahra Wagenknecht)
Die ukrainische Regierung muss ihre sogenannte Anti-Terror-Offensive einstellen. Durch den Einsatz von Panzern, Flugzeugen und Artillerie gibt es offensichtlich zunehmend Opfer unter der Zivilbevölkerung. Es ist ungeheuerlich, dass Merkel diesen blutigen Einsatz des ukrainischen Militärs und der Nationalgarde als legitim bezeichnet.
Merkel und Außenminister Steinmeier sollten sich von einem ukrainischen Präsidenten distanzieren, der zur Tötung hunderter Menschen für einen getöteten Soldaten aufgerufen hat. Es muss untersucht werden, ob und von welcher Seite es in der Ostukraine zu Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit kam und kommt."
http://www.ad-hoc-news.de/neues-deutschland-nva-raketenspezialist-mh17-nicht-von--/de/News/37955823
BERLIN OTS - AUS SICHT EINES EXPERTEN SEI DER ABSCHUSS DER MALAYSISCHEN BOEING AM 17 :: AD HOC NEWS
Berlin ots Aus Sicht eines Experten sei der Abschuss der malaysischen Boeing am 17 Juli über der Ostukraine durch eine bodenständige Flugabwehr Rakete mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit auszuschlieen Zu dieser...
Zu dieser Einschätzung kommt Oberst a. D. Bernd Biedermann in einem Beitrag für die in Berlin erscheinende Tageszeitung "neues deutschland" (Donnerstagausgabe). Hätten Splitter einer Boden-Luft-Raketen das Flugzeug getroffen, wäre es sofort in Brand geraten, argumentiert der NVA-Fla-Raketenspezialist. Ursache sei die "großen Reibungshitze, die Splitter beim Durchschlagen des Flugkörpers erzeugen. Ein einziger enthält die gleiche kinetische Energie wie ein 40 Tonnen schwerer Güterwagen, der mit 60 Kilometern pro Stunde auf einen Prellbock läuft." Im Falle der malaysischen Boeing seien erst nach dem Aufschlag auf dem Boden vereinzelte Brände ausgebrochen, weil heiße Flugzeugteile mit brennbaren Materialien in Berührung gekommen waren. Biedermann ist mit sowjetischer und russischer Flugabwehrtechnik vertraut, er führte Einheiten im Diensthabenden System der DDR und lehrte an der Militärakademie in der Fachrichtung Fla-Raketentruppen.

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140723/191126347/Russia-Hands-Data-on-MH17-Crash-to-EC-Awaits-Reaction---Russias.html
Russia Hands Data on MH17 Crash to EU, Awaits Reaction - Russia's EU Envoy
http://english.pravda.ru/russia/kremlin/24-07-2014/128137-russia_boeing_disaster-0/
Russia strongly denies involvement in Boeing disaster, aks USA ironic questions
Addressing representatives of the United States, the official asked: "If the territory of the United States were fired from a neighboring territory, and, God forbid, an American citizen were killed, what would the United States do? The answer to this this question is clear, - he continued. - We show responsibility and restraint instead."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9RwiDRkDTM
Ukraine: OSCE inspector describes inspection of crash MH17 site

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-su-25-fighter-detected-in-close-approach-to-mh17-before-crash-photographic-evidence/5392501
Ukrainian Su-25 Fighter detected in Close Approach to MH17 before Crash: Photographic Evidence

http://arcticbeacon.com/books/William_Blum-Rogue_State%282002%29.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDjVRPMsu4
U.S. Admits It's MH17 'Evidence' is Based on YouTube Clips & Social Media Posts
The Obama Administration continues to reiterate its narrative on what happened to Malaysia

Airlines flight MH17 with more certainty (and often different deta...
<infowars plus Wattson>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDjVRPMsu4
U.S. Admits It's MH17 'Evidence' is Based on YouTube Clips & Social Media Posts
<Where are the Kiev air trafick control tapes, transcripts>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOigZWn-APU
Main Scream Media: Western press pin blame for MH17 crash on Russia
<Rod Steward talking shit too>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/assigning-blame-to-east-ukraine-rebels-us-appeals-to-law-of-the-jungle-in-mh17-case/5392797
Assigning Blame to East Ukraine Rebels: US Appeals to "Law of the Jungle" in MH17 Case
After the Russian Federation disclosed to the world satellite imagery, radar information, and

abnormalities in Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 flight MH17's flight path, it asked Ukraine and the

Weste...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3c3BpRm6V8
BBC News - Dutch forensic team 'impressed' by work at MH17 crash site
http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.de/2014/07/was-die-gerichtsmediziner-vor-ort-sagen.html?m=1
 Was die Gerichtsmediziner vor Ort sagen

Die niederländischen Gerichtsmediziner haben sich sehr positiv über die Arbeit der lokalen

Sicherheitskräfte an der Absturzstelle geäussert.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/22/the-mystery-of-a-ukrainian-army-defector/
The Mystery of a Ukrainian Army ‘Defector’

http://rt.com/news/174868-ukraine-buk-falsification-continues/
Bogus photos of ‘Russian’ air-defense systems in Ukraine debunked by bloggers

Ukraine continues to concoct evidence of Russia’s air defense system’s involvement in the Boeing

tragedy. This time Ukraine’s secret service has published as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqcx0eUYag
U.S. Govt: MH17 Stance Based On Obvious Social Media Hoaxes
<no traffic controll tapes released by Kiev>
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/abschuss-von-mh17-separatisten-verwischen-ihre-spuren-13053934.html
OSZE-Experten mit Warnschüssen zurückgedrängt
<Die Scheißkerle lügen wie gedruckt wen es eigentlich umgekehrt war. Die Kiew Nazis haben versucht

die Untersuchungen so weit wie möglich zu behindern. Habe einige Videos gesehen die das

bestätigen.>
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Remember when we were all "Assad propagandists" for questioning the 2013 chemical weapons attack,

until the MIT study proved we were right? Now the U.S. State Department says just 'trust us' on

MH17 because they've failed to provide any actual hard fucking evidence.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/whistleblower-u-s-satellite-images-show-ukrainian-troops-shooting-down-mh17-2/5392688
Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17
Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence

source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian

troops we...
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh17-another-false-flag-operation-by-the-us-nato-israel-war-cabal/5392658
Malaysian Airlines MH17: Another "False Flag Operation" by the US-NATO-Israel War Cabal?
One would have thought that the Zionist Anglo-American war cabal would learn from their failures

in propaganda warfare, especially now when their credibility is at rock bottom. Post 9-11 and the

Ir...
http://rt.com/news/174332-ukraine-plane-photo-perverted/
Perverted truth: How rebel mourning MH17 victims was turned into looter with trophy
Twitter is quick, but too quick sometimes – recently it burst with photos of an evil Ukrainian

militiaman who took a teddy bear from the victim of Malaysia plane crash as a trophy. But the full

video shows he was just paying the tribute to the dead.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/wolfowitz-doctrine-us-plans-for-russia-2945824.html
WOLFOWITZ DOCTRINE – US PLANS FOR RUSSIA
http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-american-propaganda-works-guilt-by-insinuation/5392573
How American Propaganda Works: "Guilt By Insinuation"
President Putin has repeatedly stressed that the investigation of MH-17 requires “a fully

representative group of experts to be working at the site under the guidance of the International

Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).” Putin’s call for an independent expert examination by ICAO

does not sound like a person with anything to hide.
http://rt.com/news/174596-osce-bociurkiw-mh17-crash/
Expert access to MH17 crash site 'fairly good' - OSCE mission
It took four days for international experts to gain access to the crash site. The reason is that

even after Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced a 40-kilometer ceasefire zone around the

crash site, Malaysian experts came under heavy shelling from the Ukrainian army while making their

way within the ceasefire zone.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/16/neo-leaked-documents-show-us-embassy-in-ukraine-is-staging-false-flag/
NEO – Leaked documents show US Embassy in Ukraine is Staging False Flag
www.veteranstoday.com
- Evidence has led to the discovery of plans to stage a series of terror attacks in the Ukraine to

be blamed on Russian Special Forces.
http://de.rian.ru/society/20140722/269075985.html
Journalist: USA haben Belege für Boeing-Abschuss durch ukrainisches Militär
de.ria.ru

Die USA verfügen laut dem amerikanischen Investigationsjournalisten Robert Parry über

Satellitenbilder, die belegen, dass die malaysische Boeing MH17 vom ukrainischen Militär

abgeschossen worden ist.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/07/ukraine-rebels-hand-over-plane-black-boxes-2014721215615698236.html
Ukraine rebels hand over plane black boxes
The move comes after a UN Security Council resolution demanded full and unrestricted access to the

crash site.
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/07/21/russland-ukrainischer-kampf-jet-war-vor-abschuss-in-der-naehe-von-mh17/
Russland: Ukrainischer Kampf-Jet war vor Abschuss in der Nähe von MH17
deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de

Der russische Generalstab hat am am Montag Radar-Bilder und Schaubilder vorgelegt. Diesen Bildern

zufolge soll ein ukrainischer Kampf-Jet vom Typ SU (Suchoi)-25 in unmittelbarer Nähe von Flug MH17

gewesen sein, bevor die Maschine abgeschossen wurde. Außerdem soll es Belege geben, die zeigen,

die die…
http://shar.es/NV1gH
Malaysian Airlines MH17 Was Ordered to Fly over the East Ukraine Warzone
On the matter of MH17’s flight path, Malaysian Airlines confirms that the pilot was instructed to

fly at a lower altitude by the Kiev air traffic control tower upon its entry into Ukraine

airspace....
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In response to the satellite images and data from Russia, the U.S. State Department has outlined

its own "evidence" that Russia-backed separatists are responsible for downing Malaysia Airlines

flight MH-17.

What is the evidence? It is "a statement posted on the website of the U.S. embassy to Ukraine that

says the flight was "likely downed by a SA-11 surface-to-air missile from separatist-controlled

territory in eastern Ukraine.”

In other words, the US "evidence" is a statement, which is an argument of an obstinate five-year

old: "It is so because I say so."

The only fact in this U.S. Department "evidence" is that we have established that the US Embassy

to Ukraine has a website on which it is able to to make statements, which the corporate media then

present as "evidence."
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http://rt.com/news/174544-un-probe-malaysia-plane/
‘Kiev will have to answer many questions’ as UN urges intl MH17 crash probe – Moscow envoy
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http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/
10 more questions Russian military pose to Ukraine, US over MH17 crash

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741675
Russia ready to hand over Malaysian plane flight data to ICAO
Earlier in the day, the Russian Defense Ministry released a video that showed the movement of

civil aircraft over Ukraine on the approaches to Russia’s airspace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR5HtzbMy-E
Whistleblower: Ukrainian Troops Shot Down MH17
<Paul Watson>
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.br/2014/07/the-russian-military-finally-speaks.html
The Russian military finally speaks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-qHzJH0o_I
Ukraine: Bodies of MH17 victims sealed in train by OSCE

http://on.rt.com/y023f2
MH17 black boxes to be handed over to Malaysian authorities - Malaysian PM
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak says the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 black boxes will be

handed over to the Malaysians in Donetsk at 9pm Ukrainian time. The bodies of 282 victims of the

crash are to be flown to Amsterdam.

http://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Pages/statement-MH17-2014-07-18.aspx
"Die Ukraine trägt die Verantwortung für die Führung ihres Luftraums"

International Air Transport Association IATA - Statement
( Internationale Luftverkehrs-Vereinigung)

"Airlines depend on governments and air traffic control authorities to advise which air space is

available for flight, and they plan within those limits.

It is very similar to driving a car. If the road is open, you assume that it is safe. If it’s

closed you find an alternate route. "
http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.ch/2014/07/video-mit-raketentransporter-ist-eine.html
Video mit Raketentransporter ist eine Fälschung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PycJMxUL8x8
Flug MH17:Weitere Falschmeldung die verbreitet wird (entlarvte Medienlüge)
http://de.ria.ru/society/20140721/269069490.html
Boeing-Crash: Ukraine betrieb am Absturztag mehr Radare als sonst
Am Tag des tödlichen Absturzes der malaysischen Boeing über der Ost-Ukraine hat das russische

Militär nach eigenen Angaben eine angestiegene Intensität ukrainischer Radare registriert.

Zusätzliche Radaranlagen sollen wenige Tage vor der Katastrophe eingeschaltet und danach wieder

abgeschaltet worden…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeOrlnljhEQ
Gigantische mediale Hetzjagd gegen Russland (wo sind die Beweise?!)
http://nsnbc.me/2014/07/21/kiev-attacks-donetsk-headquarters-mh17-response/
Kiev Attacks Donetsk, Headquarters for MH17 Response
Reuters reported that the NATO-backed regime in Kiev has launched an offensive on the eastern city

of Donetsk, Donetsk province. In its article, "Fighting e
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-show-tell-its-the-wests-turn-russian-satellites-and-radars-contradict-wests-baseless-claims/5392468
MH17 Show & Tell: It's the West's Turn - Russian Satellites and Radars Contradict West's...
Russia has now shown its satellite pictures and radar information from the Donetsk, Ukraine region

during the July 17, 2014 Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash. The Wall Street Journal reported in

http://www.globalresearch.ca/kiev-attacks-donetsk-headquarters-for-mh17-response/5392382

Kiev Attacks Donetsk, Headquarters for MH17 Response
Reuters reported that the NATO-backed regime in Kiev has launched an offensive on the eastern city

of Donetsk, Donetsk province. In its article, "Fighting erupts in Ukraine as crash investigators

a...
http://www.infowars.com/whistleblower-u-s-satellite-images-show-ukrainian-troops-shooting-down-mh17/
Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17
Source tells award winning reporter Washington lying about responsibility for tragedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpeo5RcQQo
Пресс-конференция представителей минобороны России по крушению Boeing-777
"A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian

Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s

military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on

Monday."

with english interpreter who follows the speaker's words, not synchronised

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/20/wrong-aircraft-identified-as-malaysia-flt-mh-17-fuels-doubts/
Wrong Aircraft Identified As Malaysia Flt MH-17 Fuels Doubts
http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=610598
Here is the full, possibly game-changing briefing by the Russian Ministry of Defense-both in

Russian and English
http://russian.rt.com/article/41842
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, at the time of the crash of Boing 777 in the skies over

Ukraine on July 17 near the borderline was a Ukrainian Air Force plane, presumably Su-25. Distance

of the Ukrainian Su-25 from Boing 777 amounted to five kilometers, which fits into the range

parameters of "air-to-air" missiles, which such aircraft are equipped with. Original article:
http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/
Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Russian military
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing

on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger

airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/07/kiev-attacks-donetsk-headquarters-for.html
Kiev Attacks Donetsk, Headquarters for MH17 Response

"The provincial capital is being used as a headquarters to coordinate the cleanup, recovery, and

investigation of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. The attack on Donetsk by Kiev's forces will

further complicate efforts to recovery bodies, bring impartial, international investigators to the

crash site, and arrive at the truth of what happened to the doomed flight...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=820214631336164
MH17 crashide open to journalists
>Eugene A. Risunkov< video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESzmymN5JCc
(English) Michael Bociurkiw. UCMC, 20th of July 2014
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Mitschnitt der internationalen PK mit einem OSCE Mitarbeiter vor Ort von heute Abend (20.7.) -

auch hier keine Klagen.
http://rt.com/news/174268-ukraine-mh17-crash-putin/
Putin: Taskforce at Malaysia MH17 crash site not enough, full-scale team of intl experts needed
rt.com

The tragic Malaysian MH17 flight crash must not be politicised and the international experts on

the scene should be able to carry out their work in complete safety, Russian President Vladimir

Putin said.


http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118765/putins-lockerbie-why-russias-propaganda-machine-high-gear
The Malaysia Airlines Disaster Is Vladimir Putin's Lockerbie Bombing
<western propaada and lies. Just BS!>
<The Lockerbie bombings by the way were done by the CIA>

http://youtu.be/iLjfcttipu0
US explanation trashed! Air Traffic Controller: Two fighter planes followed MH17 over Ukraine
What actually happened to MH17 when it crashed in Ukraine? A Spanish air traffic controller

working in Kiev reveals that the plane was being followed by two
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Strange_Coincidence__Malaysian_Airlines_Plane_Replica_Stored_at_Ben_Gurion_Airport/101952
Strange Coincidence? - Malaysian Airlines Plane Replica Stored At Ben Gurion Airport
The missing plane had a tail number of 9M-MRO. The one at Tel Aviv has tail number 9M-MRI ...
http://rt.com/news/174268-ukraine-mh17-crash-putin/
Putin: Taskforce at Malaysia MH17 crash site not enough, full-scale intl team needed
http://www.voltairenet.org/article184787.html
Discourse of War and Doublethink, the Example of Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=117rZ7rsx7A&feature=youtu.be
Ukraine: MH17 black boxes and bodies will be turned over to international observers, says Borodai

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741521
Kiev’s evidence of militia’s responsibility for airliner crash faked - expert
A group of experts studied the tape and came to the conclusion that it was made up of numerous

unrelated recordings

http://www.infowars.com/what-happened-to-the-malaysian-airliner/
What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJuC26JElUU&list=UUSe1WCAujovQdGx7mPBGEKQ
Flug MH17:Verschwundene Tweets/Ignorierte Augenzeugen und wichtige Aussage!
http://on.rt.com/aj1ilc
What could be MH17 data recorders found in E. Ukraine, taken to Donetsk – militia
Items, presumably the data recorders from the crashed Malaysian plane, have been found and

delivered to Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine, according to the leader of the self-proclaimed People’s

Republic of Donetsk.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741356
Two NATO aircrafts on combat duty in Romania, Poland during MH17 crash

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=93377

http://de.ria.ru/society/20140719/269056061.html
Nach Boeing-Absturz: Moskau fordert von Kiew Offenlegung der Flugabwehrdaten
Nach dem Absturz des malaysischen Passagierjets im Raum von Donezk in der Ostukraine hat Moskau

von der Führung in Kiew gefordert, alle Daten zur ukrainischen Luftabwehr im Konfliktgebiet

offenzulegen.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741271
Militias do not have Ukrainian Buk missile system — Ukraine general prosecutor
Ukrainian Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said on July 17 that the Malaysia Airlines Boeing

777 airliner had been downed by the Buk missile system
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/mh17/investigators-struggle-to-reach-mh17-crash-site-in-strife-torn-ukraine/article1-1242173.aspx
MH17: Cui Bono? The Answer is in.... via Reuters:
MH17: Ukraine, rebels argue over wreck, Dutch give Putin 'last chance' - See more at
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/mh17/investigators-struggle-to-reach-mh17-crash-site-in-strife-torn-ukraine/article1-1242173.aspx#sthash.le2iTr94.dpuf
"After US President Barack Obama said the loss of the Kuala Lumpur-bound flight showed it was time

to end the conflict, Germany called it Moscow's last chance to cooperate. European powers seemed

to swing behind Washington's belief Russia's separatist allies were to blame. That might speed new

trade sanctions on Moscow, without waiting for definitive proof."

So there you have it - they laid their last card out on the table before the crash, and it was a

joker, so now they rigged the deck and dealt again...
http://rt.com/news/174112-mh17-ukraine-plane-crash/
We declare that we will guarantee the safety of international experts on the scene at the

conclusion of a ceasefire agreement with Kiev,” Purgin said as cited by RIA Novosti. “We invite

Kiev to immediately conclude such an agreement with the DPR, at least for the duration of the

specialists' visit to the crash site.” "

http://www.globalresearch.ca/flight-mh17-conjures-mh370-exposing-western-deception-was-it-a-staged-event/5392222
Flight MH17 Conjures MH370, Exposing Western Deception, Was it a Staged Event?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh370-and-mh17-a-criminologist-questions-what-are-the-probabilities-is-it-a-mere-coincidence/5392265
Malaysian Airlines MH370 and MH17. A Criminologist Questions: What are the Probabilities? Is it a Mere Coincidence?

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http://www.investor-verlag.de/malaysia-airlines-flug-mh17-was-geschah-wirklich/120200031/
Malaysia Airlines Flug MH17: Was geschah wirklich?
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http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/ukraine-traffic-controllers-instructed-mh17-to-fly-lower-mas-says
“According to our information, the aircraft was flying at Flight Level 330 (approximately 10,000 metres/33,000 feet) when it disappeared from the radar.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/5391888

Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing MH#17
http://www.globalresearch.ca/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/5391888
This report has yet to be fully corroborated and should be read with caution. We have highlighted relevant sections.

The Spanish air controller confirms a conflict between the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of the Interior intimating that the order concerning the downing of the aircraft came from the Ministry of the Interior, which is dominated by Svoboda and Right Sector.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39144.htm
Sanctions and Airliners
 The Russian government should not forget that Washington’s attitude toward Russia is formed by the Wolfowitz Doctrine which states:

“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39144.htm
"In the 21st century distrust has been growing of Washington. Washington’s lies, such as Iraq’s “weapons of mass destruction,” “Assad’s use of chemical weapons,” and “Iranian nukes” are recognized as lies by other governments. The lies were used by Washington to destroy countries and to threaten others with destruction, keeping the world in constant turmoil
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ch/2014/07/memories-recollection-guesses-and.html
Memories, recollections, guesses and speculations about MH17
http://rt.com/news/173976-mh17-crash-questions-ukraine/
Malaysia MH17 crash: 10 questions Russia wants Ukraine to answer
rt.com

Some Western states and Kiev rushed to find Russian involvement in the MH17 crash having no evidence to back their claims, Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister told RT. He invited Ukraine to answer 10 questions to prove their commitment to an impartial probe.
Speaking to RT, Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov has criticized Western countries for jumping to conclusions just “24 hours after the crash” while there is no evidence. “It seems to me that this is part of information warfare which has been started against the Russian Federation and armed forces,” he said.
http://www.infowars.com/reminder-u-s-plotted-to-provoke-shoot-down-of-airliner-to-create-pretext-for-war/
Reminder: U.S. Plotted to Provoke Shoot Down of Airliner to Create Pretext for War
Plotting to stage downing of an airliner & start a war is insane, except when 'Murica does it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8eAEBSj9k
MH17crash
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMgIpC-bCfQ
Evidence to Frame Russia For MH17 Shoot Down Fabricated?
Evidence presented by Ukraine to implicate Russia in the shoot down of the Malaysian Airlines plane appears to have been fabricated.
<infowars paul wattson>
http://www.globalresearch.ca/was-ukraines-ministry-of-interior-behind-the-downing-of-malaysian-airlines-mh17/5391909
Was Ukraine's Ministry of Interior behind the Downing of Malaysian Airlines MH17?
A division of Buk missile systems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was, according to Pravda deployed to the Donetsk Oblast on July 15, two days before the downing of the Malaysian airlines MH17 flight...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17
Ukraine Releases YouTube Clip "Proving" Rebels Shot Down Malaysian Flight MH-17
http://www.eturbonews.com/48079/ukraine-air-traffic-controller-suggests-kiev-military-shot-down-
Ukrainian millitary escorted B777 until 3 minutes before disappearing Ukraine air traffic ...
ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of ...
http://shar.es/NEkom
Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 Downed Over Warzone Ukraine. Who Was Behind It? Cui Bono?
www.globalresearch.ca

At no juncture during the Ukrainian crisis could the downing of flight MH17 have been more convenient for NATO and its proxy regime in Kiev. Kiev's forces in eastern Ukraine are being repealed. I...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10974050/Malaysia-Airlines-plane-crashes-on-Ukraine-Russia-border-live.html
Malaysia Airlines plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border - live
The rebels say that they only have anti-aircraft weapons capable of downing aircraft up to 3000 meters - well short of the 10,000 meter cruising altitude of commercial airliners.

The most sophisticated surface to air missile system known to be in rebel hands is the Strela-10, a Soviet designed system with a ceiling of about 3,000 meters. The rebels say they have used it to down several Ukrainian aircraft in recent days.

But earlier this week the Ukrainians said a missile brought down one of their transport aircraft at over 6000 meters - which they said meant it was probably fired on by regular Russian forces from the other side of the border rather than the militia.
Malaysia Airlines confirms it received notification from Ukrainian ATC that it had lost contact with flight MH17 at 1415 (GMT) at 30km from Tamak waypoint, approximately 50km from the Russia-Ukraine border.
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That's interesting: WIKIPEDIA CHANGED MAX ALTITUDE OF SU-25 TO 7'000 METERS ON JULY 16. - JUST ONE DAY BEFORE ‪#‎MH17‬ WAS SHOT DOWN

"Und nochmal:

(Ganz nebenbei: so viel zu Thema WIKIPEDIA ALS VERLÄSSLICHE QUELLE, *hust* )

Was uns die Mainstream verschweigen sieht man im CBS Canada TV ll!
M. Bociurkiw, einer der ersten OSZE-Ermittler am Wrack, bestätigt Einschüsse an der Aussenwand von FlugMH17: Er spricht von Maschinengewehrkugeln. Dafür spricht auch die Aufnahme.

dazu auch folgende Aussage eines erfahrenen Piloten:

immer wieder wird argumentiert, die SU 25 habe eine Dienstgipfelhöhe von 7.000 Metern und kann so die MH 017 nicht abgeschossen haben. Wer sich auf Wikipedia kundig machen will, wird das bestätigt bekommen. Wer sich aber die Mühe macht sein Wissen auf Fachseiten zu erweitern, der erhält eine ganz andere, die richtige Dienstgipfelhöhe: 14.600 Meter. Zum Beispiel hier: http://www.fliegerweb.com/militaer/flugzeuge/lexikon.php?show=lexikon-50

Dazu ist sagen: Bis 15.07.2014 wurde in Wikipedia, sowohl in deutsch als auch in englisch, die Dienstgipfelhöhe der SU 25 mit „ca. 10.000 Meter“ angegeben. Am 16.07.2014 standen an denselben Stellen nur noch 7.000 Meter. Die MH 017 ist am 17.07.2014 abgeschossen worden. Vergleichen Sie den Zeitablauf. Im Wikipedia-Diskussionsforum ist ein riesiger „shitstorm“ über die falsche Dienstgipfelhöhe entbrannt. Wikipedia zeigt sich unbeeindruckt. (Wer sich gut im Netz auskennt, kann die obigen Angaben auf webarchive.org überprüfen.)

Das Handbuch “Flugzuge der Welt” von W.Green aus 1984 S.208f., einem Standardwerk, das i.w. die Daten der militärischen “Janes”-Handbücher wiedergibt und auch “NATO”-Referenz gewesen ist, bestimmt für die 1984 erstmals aufgeführte SU-25 eine Dienstgipfelhöhe schon in der ersten Exportversion der SU-25 (SU-25 MK, auf die sich die westliche Referenz bezieht) von 10.670 Metern.

Quelle:
http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-PVmCv8eM&feature=youtu.be
Verdeckte Kriegsführung – Ein Blick hinter die Kulissen der Machtpolitik (Dr. Daniele Ganser)
1:25:33 German from Switzerland
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The argument will be that my RT links are "Russian propaganda". This is not my own opinion but the counter argument can be made that all Western MSM are propaganda too. So I will have to use alternative media as my main focus. Are they getting it EVERY time right? No but they damn close to 90% of the time. Direct evidence like what OSCE observers said or independent experts are on my top list too.

Will highlight contradiction, plain lies, disinformation backtracking, cheap forgeries and the motive and history of the warmongers.